The next British Heavyweight World Champion

[cally]

I don't expect anything more from fast eddie anymore tbh..

I confused Eddie and haye there.. Easy mistake, i guess... Lol

[gavpowell]

Imagine a heavyweight with Tyson Fury's movement and AJ's power? That would be one seriously dangerous man

Joshua's power will get its first true test against Martin, because so far he's been operating at such a poor level that it's been hard to tell - the Bakhtov KO was a good indicator, but I'm waiting for more evidence. It is way, way too soon for Joshua to be fighting for a world title - for one thing he hasn't earned a chance, for another he is nowhere near ready forn world-class even if he beats Martin, and this is exactly how David Price got ruined.

Haye's new opponent is a step up from De Mori but he's just a European toughman, nothing startling. But what did anyone expect from the king of the bull****ters?

[Byrom]

Yeah sure would - not sure the they go together speed movement combination hand speed and that much muscle power in unison - Maybe he concentrates too much on power exercises in the gym and weights but like I say he is feeding his strengths.

I am no expert but what I would say is he should work on getting more supple and work on his weakness's first - if he learnt better footwork came in worked off the jab and threw punches off the jab. He could measure the distance better using the jab too and perhaps become a little lighter on his feet in and out measuring the distance drawing leads with little faints and movement, punching more at angles rolling with the shots that come back rather than plodding in square on and taking them - if he learns some of this then yes I think he would dominate. This exactly what I would say to him. I think you might be right but he is young he can adapt and learn on the job hopefully.

Up to now his power is covering up a lot of mistakes I think but I think a defeat would serve to make him stronger. He is the type that would pick his head up listen learn and would evolve. Some people get stronger after tasting defeat Kitch did and Joshua will too if and when he ever does get beat.

[GeordieDS]

Imagine a heavyweight with Tyson Fury's movement and AJ's power? That would be one seriously dangerous man

Watching that clip again just reaffirms my opinion that it's to soon, he needs two or three fights with very durable journeymen otherwise he'll be getting knocked out soon enough then he'll fight the journeymen but his confidence will have been damaged, just my opinion of course

[Byrom]

That's my thoughts exactly Byrom, also I think he's to big, IMO it doesn't help your stamina at all being built like that. It's all fast twitch muscle, explosive but tire quickly.

Yeah I'm jealous too

Only joking - yeah I agree - he is also not the most naturally talented boxer and yet perhaps he knows that so works to his strengths which is in fact his strength but he does work hard and can improve - what does it say on you tag line again?

[itsnoteasy]

He does stand upright and stiff sometimes and needs to develop better head movement and footwork and a better jab. I think his technique is based all around his power so he tries to plant his feet and throw big shots. He showed a little that he can adapt and he did get better timing later on and started to use his jab and so he can improve.

I not saying he is the finished article and this was not his best fight and I think he let his emotions get in the way of his performance as there was a bit of bad feeling between the pair but when he did get back to boxing he looked better he timed his shots better and he got him out of there

That's my thoughts exactly Byrom, also I think he's to big, IMO it doesn't help your stamina at all being built like that. It's all fast twitch muscle, explosive but tire quickly.

[Byrom]

Round 2... > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mUbO1_oFCnU

OK looking back he never stiffened as much as I remembered but whyte had him hurt alright. He was weak, upright and stiff, heavy-footed for a bit. A better fighter won't let him off so easily...

He does stand upright and stiff sometimes and needs to develop better head movement and footwork and a better jab. I think his technique is based all around his power so he tries to plant his feet and throw big shots. He showed a little that he can adapt and he did get better timing later on and started to use his jab and so he can improve.

I not saying he is the finished article and this was not his best fight and I think he let his emotions get in the way of his performance as there was a bit of bad feeling between the pair but when he did get back to boxing he looked better he timed his shots better and he got him out of there

[Byrom]

well I thought it was a great fight well worth watching it all

[cally]

Round 2... > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mUbO1_oFCnU

OK looking back he never stiffened as much as I remembered but whyte had him hurt alright. He was weak, upright and stiff, heavy-footed for a bit. A better fighter won't let him off so easily...

[cally]

I do... He stiffened right up, you don't stiffen like that if you're not close to dropping bud..

Any decent finisher would have had him out of there IMO.

[GeordieDS]

He'll get ko'd at some point like someone said whyte stiffened him right up..

Yeh, whyte.. Whyte.. Lol

I don't think AJ was in that much trouble tbh

[cally]

He'll get ko'd at some point like someone said whyte stiffened him right up..

Yeh, whyte.. Whyte.. Lol

[GeordieDS]

Well I like you Geordie you one of the best posters on the forum but on this point here I disagree completely this guy has come for the money - Hearn is backing his man and has put this together and I think its great we have a top promoter able to do that - Just think differently for a moment about what you saying I mean yeah AJ is still learning but sometimes you got to grasp the opportunities when they come up - you love boxing and so do I. Now imagine that we might have another Heavyweight Champion of the World. In fact Great Britain and the home nations has never been as blessed in history as it is currently with the crop of boxers we have and I would hope and wish you me and everyone else should / would get behind him...I think Joshua will put him away as quick as the bookmaker does with your money in the bank.

Thanks but I'm not even close to being one of the best posters on here as its a snooker forum and I'm in no way good enough at the game to contribute like others on here, as far as the boxing goes i do want him to be champ which he will be at some point but i just wish he'd learned more as he'll just get knocked out at some point because he hasn't been brought on correctly, I hope I'm wrong though

[Byrom]

Fascinating fight as both could knock a horse out but both imo not even close in experienced enough to fight for a world title, Hearn showing his own inexperience by putting him up for a world title after effectively one fight against another inexperienced boxer who buzzed him Dillian Whyte.
Martin's record is full of fairground fighters but they say he's never lost a round in sparring so i've put a decent bet on him at 4/1 which is an insane price considering AJ is just a novice.
I'm actually annoyed with Hearn's handling of AJ and if his career goes tits up it'll be his fault

Well I like you Geordie you one of the best posters on the forum but on this point here I disagree completely this guy has come for the money - Hearn is backing his man and has put this together and I think its great we have a top promoter able to do that - Just think differently for a moment about what you saying I mean yeah AJ is still learning but sometimes you got to grasp the opportunities when they come up - you love boxing and so do I. Now imagine that we might have another Heavyweight Champion of the World. In fact Great Britain and the home nations has never been as blessed in history as it is currently with the crop of boxers we have and I would hope and wish you me and everyone else should / would get behind him...I think Joshua will put him away as quick as the bookmaker does with your money in the bank.

[GeordieDS]

Getting close - here is a interview with the pair face to face

Fascinating fight as both could knock a horse out but both imo not even close in experienced enough to fight for a world title, Hearn showing his own inexperience by putting him up for a world title after effectively one fight against another inexperienced boxer who buzzed him Dillian Whyte.
Martin's record is full of fairground fighters but they say he's never lost a round in sparring so i've put a decent bet on him at 4/1 which is an insane price considering AJ is just a novice.
I'm actually annoyed with Hearn's handling of AJ and if his career goes tits up it'll be his fault