The next British Heavyweight World Champion

[GeordieDS]

i am not sure about that. that might be the classic example of hope over experience.

He's beat him in the amateurs and pro ranks, granted Degale has improved but it's a close fight again when they meet

[ADR147]

DeGales lazy so George will always have a good chance to beat him imo

i am not sure about that. that might be the classic example of hope over experience.

[GeordieDS]

I think Groves will comfortably outpoint Badou Jack... I can see him winning the first 7/8 rounds and then, inevitably when he gasses, Jack might have the chance to tag him later on and perhaps stop him... I'll be going with a Groves by UD but I'll cover my bet by Jack by knockout.

He won't trouble Degale, I can't see him being strong or accurate enough to get through AA... No point even wasting my breath mentioning Andre Ward...

I think, he'll win the WBC and then perhaps take a voluntary against someone he's expected to beat... perhaps a Sakio Bika... but most likely a Martin Murray (who has an outside shot of fighting AA)...

Then it will be the big fight vs degale and the winner of that will defend against either Callum Smith, Rocky Fielding or Gilberto Ramirez as a WBC ranked mandatory challenger...

Super Middleweight division certainly will be more interesting when Andre Ward moves up.

One thing's for sure, none of them will fight Andre Ward, they'll wait for him to move up.

DeGales lazy so George will always have a good chance to beat him imo

[pottr]

I think Groves will comfortably outpoint Badou Jack... I can see him winning the first 7/8 rounds and then, inevitably when he gasses, Jack might have the chance to tag him later on and perhaps stop him... I'll be going with a Groves by UD but I'll cover my bet by Jack by knockout.

He won't trouble Degale, I can't see him being strong or accurate enough to get through AA... No point even wasting my breath mentioning Andre Ward...

I think, he'll win the WBC and then perhaps take a voluntary against someone he's expected to beat... perhaps a Sakio Bika... but most likely a Martin Murray (who has an outside shot of fighting AA)...

Then it will be the big fight vs degale and the winner of that will defend against either Callum Smith, Rocky Fielding or Gilberto Ramirez as a WBC ranked mandatory challenger...

Super Middleweight division certainly will be more interesting when Andre Ward moves up.

One thing's for sure, none of them will fight Andre Ward, they'll wait for him to move up.

[GeordieDS]

never met a poor bookie yet

One of my mates used to have a pitch at Brough Park until a load of gypo's rolled up and wiped him out in one massive job

[ADR147]

Yeah i agree with the first two although I'm not so sure if he'll win,hope so though

never met a poor bookie yet

[GeordieDS]

and fair I think!

Yeah i agree with the first two although I'm not so sure if he'll win,hope so though

[ADR147]

Nice and to the point ADR

and fair I think!

[GeordieDS]

not good enough, not really - he will edge it.

Nice and to the point ADR

[ADR147]

Not a heavyweight but what's people's thoughts on George Groves impending world title shot with Badou Jack

1) how good is Groves?
2) does he deserve another shot so soon?
3) how do you see the fight going?

not good enough, not really - he will edge it.

[GeordieDS]

Not a heavyweight but what's people's thoughts on George Groves impending world title shot with Badou Jack

1) how good is Groves?
2) does he deserve another shot so soon?
3) how do you see the fight going?

[GeordieDS]

All fighters score knock downs... Even the pillow fisted ones...

Broner had power at 135, it hasn't carried to 147. The hit em, quit em type.

I brought up losing every other round because a couple of times you seem to have brought up how hard a fighter hits as a yard stick for their ability... Power doesn't cut the mustard on it's own.

Yes... If 50 shots land. But that wasn't the example I gave.

No i definitely don't use a boxers punching power as a yardstick to how good they are that's just how you decided to perceive the written word, I said Deontay had power In a very bad era for heavyweights i didn't say this made him good,I also said he had improved loads which is what i believe

[gavpowell]

All fighters score knock downs... Even the pillow fisted ones...

Allow me to introduce you to the legendary Eric Crumble

http://boxrec.com/boxer/5316

Yes... If 50 shots land. But that wasn't the example I gave.

Sorry, misread, I thought you'd said the first guy landing 20 out of 100. If the fighter is doing the more effective work and is genuinely making an impact on the course of the fight, I might be inclined to sway in his favour over the guy landing 10 grazing jabs. But unlike a lot of people, and most judges, I have no problem scoring even rounds if neither has obviously won it.

[pottr]

All fighters score knock downs... Even the pillow fisted ones...

Broner had power at 135, it hasn't carried to 147. The hit em, quit em type.

I brought up losing every other round because a couple of times you seem to have brought up how hard a fighter hits as a yard stick for their ability... Power doesn't cut the mustard on it's own.

Yes... If 50 shots land. But that wasn't the example I gave.

[GeordieDS]

Yeah, he did. Lost every other round of that fight too.

You said Broner hadn't showed any power and i pointed out the time he did so no idea what relevance the above comment has?