Cant get the tip flat to the cue!!

[cally]

right, ill give the cement a go then, although theres no point me putting it on if the tip aint fitting flush onto the cue is it? Its so annoying

cement aint gonna make it sit more even is it...

I dont like that cement shat, i havnt used it since i was a kid, cant be doing with the clamping business and waiting for it to go off while the clamp has moved the tip whilst standing overnight, and you gotta do it all again...terrible stuff imo. (not always but does happen).

I used to hate tip cement, surely not many people use that rubbish anymore?

Stick to the good old super glue, much easier, especially if your having trouble with super glue i wouldnt recommend using cement if ya cant get it right with super glue fella. it can be a potch with cement sometimes.

And i havnt lost as many tips over the years since using super glue,i remember losing tips regular to when i used cement, i found it quite weak but was a long time ago and i was young at the time, so was just probably poor at tipping at the time... i dunno, but i still reckon the cement is rubbish, why wait overnight when superglue takes seconds to go off...

[jrc750]

..... For future reference when i go to re-tip my new cue, how will i make sure i dont damage the ferrule with the stanley knife when scraping the glue off? Also, what about if i need to sand it a little to get some glue off? Wont i just make it uneven again?

You have to take it very slow and just be careful - or ask someone down the club to do it for you, my club only charges £2

[DandyA]

I think you're saying the wood in the middle of the ferrule always stands out however hard you try to get it flat ... could it be wet? and hence expanding?

Might be worth keeping it in a warm dry place for a couple of days ...

I'd also suggest Araldite or another epoxy resin ... superglue is a contact adhesive and requires the two surfaces to be in contact with each other, Araldite does not and will bond between small gaps ...

Oh and superglue only works at room temperature so in this weather, if you do use it, make sure cue, cue tip and glue are all warm ... at 5C (fridge or outside temperature) superglue is useless ...

[Kootcha]

It appears that none of you are using a cue tip sander such as Tweetens Rapid Sander. It will flatten the tip in less than 2 or 3 seconds. I replace tips for several people and have never had a problem. It is manual, not electric, and two revolutions usually does the trick. My initial cost was $17.00 Candadian, about 8 English pounds. With a perfectly flat tip, Tweetens cement works well. So far, every tip has stayed on.

[Dan27]

It appears that none of you are using a cue tip sander such as Tweetens Rapid Sander. It will flatten the tip in less than 2 or 3 seconds. I replace tips for several people and have never had a problem. It is manual, not electric, and two revolutions usually does the trick. My initial cost was $17.00 Candadian, about 8 English pounds. With a perfectly flat tip, Tweetens cement works well. So far, every tip has stayed on.

Tools like that are fine if you want to use them, but I get perfectly fine results using either some sandpaper or a file.

[monkey]

Its annoying me big time. Ive sanded it and to me it feels and looks perfectley flat. Ran out of ideas And im doing it in the house so its warm and dry...

[Terry Davidson]

For goodness sake, don't replace your ferrule unless you are really uncoordinated and can't use a file.

Go to your nearest hardware store (not familiar with the British term) and get a fine-toothed metal file. It is perfectly flat. Then carefully file down the top of the ferrule using short and level strokes.

You can check by standing the cue up and placing the file flat on top of the ferrule and turning it. If the end of the file dips at all then you are not perfectly level or if you see a gap around the side then the wood inside the ferrule it sticking up.

Also, use the file to make the bottom of the tip flat too then use Lepages number 12 epoxy cement. It takes about 1/2-hour to dry but it will fill in any gaps, does not soak into the tip and creates a permanent bond. I've never had a tip come off in years using this glue, they will wear out first.

Terry

[monkey]

right, ive tried sandpaper and a nail file, but will get one of those and try it. Shall i take some pics and post them up?

[Dan27]

right, ive tried sandpaper and a nail file, but will get one of those and try it. Shall i take some pics and post them up?

You could do, but you should be able to tell if it's the tip or the ferrule when you hold the file against the top of the ferrule or when you place the tip on a flat surface.

[Mr O]

Monkey, it could be that you're not removing the old glue properly. The best way to do it is to use a stanley blade (without the knife handle) Place the blade edge on top of the ferrule (blade pointing downward towards ground) and rotate the blade with some pressure a good few times . This not only removes the old adhesive but helps get it flat.

Also, tip cement is all you need, and you don't need a clamp. Just press the tip down hard when you put it on. Tip cement is a lot easier to work with as you get a good few seconds to move the tip to the right position on the ferrule before it sets. This is especially useful if you're putting a tip on which is the same size (or only slightly larger than the ferrule).
How many of us have "missed" using superglue and have to start all over again

[Mr O]

Those blue tubes of tip cement on ebay are what I use, and the tube lasts ages. It does get you pleasantly high aswell

[snooker warrior]

order one of these that will sort it !!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tab%3DWatching

[monkey]

ill get one of those one of the days. But for now ive just picked at the wood in the middle of the ferrule and ive got the tip on ok for now, just to get me through tonight. Ill order one of those one day and hopefully it will sort it

[jonplayer]

The chances are your ferrel is ok, your just naff at putting tips on. It is quite an art, but very simple when you get the hang of it. Use a very sharp blade to get the ferel / cue end suface nice and flat, don't use sand paper on it. Get a tip that is slightly too big if possible. Sand the underside of the tip a little. If the tip and ferrel are simalar diameters a little trick is to put a bit of tape round the side of the tip, small blob of super glue gel on the tip, line her up (the tape helps here), push her down hard for 20 seconds. Done.
If you have over hang bits use a very sharp blade to remove them, not sandpaper, your bound to mess your ferrel and cue up if your not careful with sandpaper. Play it in before you shape it, thats important because most tips give a bit with a few hours play. Sand it to shape at the end.
Good luck.

[Kootcha]

I completely agree with you. If you have the hand/eye skills to do the task without tools, then you should do so. There is much pleasure in using hand skills. However, I use a jointer to straighten a piece of wood rather than make toothpicks with a hand plane and I use a Rapid Sander to perfectly flatten a cue tip as I would not be able to do so without mechanical help.
As we say here, "Good on you" for being able to do it without an aid.