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  • #46
    Originally Posted by Geoff Large View Post
    Fo any one using tube heaters without thermostat cutt off , please consider useing one of these available on ebay

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THERMOGUAR...item27c5257421

    Heaters are available also

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-FT-ELECT...item58a703222b

    I would recommend 4ft tube heaters three of them in the three sections under the table defined by the main cross sections to all legs .

    never place these heaters close to the slate , leave plenty of space for heat to dissipate evenly and not spot heat like some have fitted , temperature setting ? , well through discussion i think 23 to 25 C would be the ideal temperature setting on the main thermostat , place this central on the main cross member between middle legs towards the bottom edge so heat has to fill the void and bleed down to thermostat , otherwise the thermostat will be clicking out at the highest point rather than the lowest part of the void you are heating under the table .
    Experiment with temperature , and take a reading above the slate with a separate thermometer to see what is actually coming through the slate , in the middle of the slate and towards the side cushions , you will then get an idea of any spot area's that are getting more heat .
    The lower you place the heating tubes the better it is for the slate and the overall pattern of heat in the bed of the table being more consistent over its length and width .
    Be careful with any heat source placed under the table that you do not fowl the area or cover the tubes with anything .

    I know of one club who had one 8ft long tube heater 4 inch above the floor , and decorators threw their dust sheets under the table at night time to clear the area , result one burned down club !
    Suspend them under the table but away from the slate as much as you can without seeing them hanging , you may have to improvise and fit cross timbers along the bottom edge of the inner frame to fit the tube heaters to which most come with the brackets to do this .
    A 3 way plug socket from the thermostat will allow you to plug each heater into , a typical heater is 240 watts x 3 = 720 watts , far below the 3000 watts allowed for the controlling thermostat.

    Hi Geoff,

    Do you need a thermostat for each tube?

    Also, where do you positon the thermostat?

    I only ask because I don't know how the thermostat reads the temp under the table if it's plugged in a couple of meters away from the table.

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    • #47
      Careful with heating elements being so close to Polystyrene slabs , is the poly slabs inflammable if so insurance may pick up on this if a fire is the cause made by placing heating elements on top of this polystyrene slab .
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      • #48
        Originally Posted by cueless View Post
        Hi Geoff,

        Do you need a thermostat for each tube?

        Also, where do you positon the thermostat?

        I only ask because I don't know how the thermostat reads the temp under the table if it's plugged in a couple of meters away from the table.

        You can built in thermostat per heater or one thermostat , but place the thermostat central under the table controlling all heaters , but make sure the thermostat switching can handle the total wattage of all heaters if using
        one thermostat
        Last edited by Geoff Large; 19 April 2016, 11:28 PM.
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        • #49
          I have four damp chasers. They are 15W each. They are warm to the touch but that is it. Geoff warned me of excessive heat. I have an external thermometer buried in spray foam insulation mounted to the Center skate with a digital read out mounted. My table stays between 23c and 25c they have not been shut off in three years. They are about 6" from the slate.

          " Practice to improve not just to waste time "
          " 43 Match - 52 Practice - 13 Reds in Line Up "
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          • #50
            By the time that gets through the slate what's the temp then Les?
            This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
            https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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            • #51
              I have 2 tubes per slate. Pre set temp is 22,,, I think...Room temp around 21.
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              • #52
                Thanks Geoff.

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                • #53
                  Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                  By the time that gets through the slate what's the temp then Les?
                  Mine usually reads around 23. I would say a couple degrees above room temp. I talked to Strachan and they said that was perfect.
                  " Practice to improve not just to waste time "
                  " 43 Match - 52 Practice - 13 Reds in Line Up "
                  http://www.ontariosnooker.club

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                  • #54
                    Forgive my ignorance is this 22-25 F or C ?
                    This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                    https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                    • #55
                      Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                      Forgive my ignorance is this 22-25 F or C ?
                      Celsius. Mine always warms up s little more in the summer months because I have two dehumidifiers going and they produce a lot of heat. I like to keep the humidity around 45 max
                      " Practice to improve not just to waste time "
                      " 43 Match - 52 Practice - 13 Reds in Line Up "
                      http://www.ontariosnooker.club

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                      • #56
                        Originally Posted by lesedwards View Post
                        Celsius. Mine always warms up s little more in the summer months because I have two dehumidifiers going and they produce a lot of heat. I like to keep the humidity around 45 max
                        It must be quite warm to the touch, in our club the balls are freezing lol, they are that cold in the winter you don't want to handle them lol.
                        This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                        https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                        • #57
                          Sometimes when I am re-covering a table and there is a radiator on the wall especially those old school type cast iron ones , and it can take the balls on top without rolling off , I line them up on the radiator while I do the re-cover which takes around 4 hours
                          the balls are nice and warm to the touch and play much better when i line them back up for the client ready for play .
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                          • #58
                            Originally Posted by Geoff Large View Post
                            Sometimes when I am re-covering a table and there is a radiator on the wall especially those old school type cast iron ones , and it can take the balls on top without rolling off , I line them up on the radiator while I do the re-cover which takes around 4 hours
                            the balls are nice and warm to the touch and play much better when i line them back up for the client ready for play .
                            I've often thought of doing that but never done it. I Think I will give it a try!
                            Did you put my "1" up ?

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