Sidespin on a snooker table both with and against the nap

[pottr]

Sidespin on a snooker table both with and against the nap

No... biggie took my quote and then said my memory was wrong.

it isn't

Glad you enjoyed my boxers... I am an insult to genetics

[travisbickle]

Absolute BOLLOCKS!!! The freaking CB will throw to the right and hit BOB for goodness sakes and make the pot but will NEVER hold the spot using helping side. It's impossible and all you're doing is confusing players on here who are anxious to try the SIT stuff.

BS has already said SIT disappears with more power, you need the high spin and low power usually with drag.

I am now really doubting your snooker abilities. Maybe physics is different with pool.

It really is shocking how much you know about this stuff Tel, it really is. I'm lost for words!

[throtts]

Here's pottr's link

https://youtu.be/qFQm_FfVLS4

Bloody thing will not play now, buddy.

Wanted another peek.

NO,, not at your boxers..Hahaha..

[travisbickle]

Played the 3/4 black off its spot with the CB around 14" away.

Firstly, I played it green ball side striking the CB at 7 o'clock 6 times. Potted it every time and the nearest I could hold the CB to the black spot was a ball width away. So it held pretty well.

Secondly, I played it green ball side, again, striking the CB at 5 o'clock 6 times. Potted it every time single time but the CB ran on around 5 inches on all attempts. So it didn't hold nearly as well.

Played the shots above at the start of my practice but my timing / lose grip felt good. Hit the CB softly so they were draggy shots, black easily reached the pocket too.

J6 or pottr , have a go the same side as me when you get time to see what you come up with. I am playing with my old Cue Craft Mirage at the mo, cost me 60 notes 25 year ago. The JP is in for repair.:snooker:

If the black is a low black i.e. CB heading towards pink on the green side of the table, play it with right hand side full ball

[pottr]

Sidespin on a snooker table both with and against the nap

I took em down... gonna re record with a steadier camera hand and clearer dialogue

[travisbickle]

Only you sunshine. See my challenge and then blame it on the commentators you watch on TV as this who string is their fault. It absolutely has to be inside stuff to (as you and j6 say) to 'straighten the CB'. Actually you are curving the CB as every video, even your own, has shown (the one with the lines shows it best).

If you can pot a 3/4-black from the green side with cueball closer to pink area than top cushion and hold the cueball absolutely still then I'l say you're absolutely correct Travis and I owe you an apology, but put a video up first as I would have to see this proof.

I will. This is all to easy :biggrin-new:

[throtts]

@ pottr, sweet ..

@ travis, I give it a go tomoz ..

[travisbickle]

No, if you shoot the shot slow you overcome the 2mm of CB throw you initially get. For goodness sakes man, on your own shot on your earlier video on the pink you used RH side to throw the CB left and then spin a bit right to overcome the throw.

Think about this then...if you removed the intervening red and played the shot EXACTLY the same way you would use RH side and pot the pink. vmax challenged you to use LH side but he knew you couldn't pot the pink as you would hit the red. In this case if you removed the red and used LH side your aim would be completely different. Look again at your own video (or pottr's or j6's) and you can see you used 'inside side' and since you didn't hit the red it's as if the red isn't there.

It's inside side all the way for shots where you want to hold the CB. There's no possible other answer but prove me wrong when you get home and play exactly the same shot with no intervening red but use your left hand side. You would have to aim off to the right to compensate for CB throw however if you used LH with drag the aiming point would be very close to centre-ball depending on how much side and speed you used.

On that video you said your intent was to hold the CB a bit and have it roll straight through for a red and you used INSIDE side.

Exactly. Right hand side to go left and vice versa. j6/Pottr is a similar shot but on the other side of the pink

[travisbickle]

I think if we all ( you and me and Travis ) admit that Terry&Vmax both are right and we are wrong , we may be able to put a end to this tragedy ?
Just to give it a break ?
I've been busy with work and I did'nt got the chance read it all . just got the chance to read few pages and i notice he even does'nt pay attention to what J6 says.
When it comes to snooker, no one can be as clear as J6 imo.
And that says something .

Just a suggestion !!

Sorry Ramon. But they haven't got a clue I'm afraid lol

[Terry Davidson]

I will. This is all to easy :biggrin-new:

Using LH side remember. I just tried it myself and I have to admit I couldn't pot the black from 3/4 and hold the spot and CB ended up just above the spot (toward the cushion). I then tried a 7/8 shot and did that one OK after a couple of attempts where I overcut the black.

Then I tried using your LH side and ended up on the top cushion so I guess you're a better man than me. I think RH side is the way to go with this shot but I couldn't get enough side to both pot the black AND hold the spot. When you put up your video using LH side I will applaud because I sure as hell can't do it. On the other hand with the 3/4 black a stun shot worked just as well, maybe a little closer to the top cushion.

[Terry Davidson]

Exactly. Right hand side to go left and vice versa. j6/Pottr is a similar shot but on the other side of the pink

Go left and then turn a bit and carry straight on the new line, which is what your video showed. If you removed the red ball you could pot the ball the same way and since it's a straight shot you could also use LH side too and achieve the same results but no intervening ball.

With an angled pot all that would change and you would have to use RH side if the CB was a little further towards the blue area. Of course all these shots can be potted, but killing the CB is the aim of what we're discussing, so on a 7/8 pink being cut to the left it will be RH side and slow to allow the RH side to bite. Ifv you use LH side you will overcut the ball unless you compensate on the aiming.

[travisbickle]

Using LH side remember. I just tried it myself and I have to admit I couldn't pot the black from 3/4 and hold the spot and CB ended up just above the spot (toward the cushion). I then tried a 7/8 shot and did that one OK after a couple of attempts where I overcut the black.

Then I tried using your LH side and ended up on the top cushion so I guess you're a better man than me. I think RH side is the way to go with this shot but I couldn't get enough side to both pot the black AND hold the spot. When you put up your video using LH side I will applaud because I sure as hell can't do it. On the other hand with the 3/4 black a stun shot worked just as well, maybe a little closer to the top cushion.

If you are aiming BOB you'll have no chance

[Terry Davidson]

Which one?

The first shot, which was on the black, was firstly played with left hand side, which held the cue ball, then with right hand side, which lost the cue ball. This was all entirely predictable.

The second shot, your Uri Gellar impersonation, was played with right hand side.

Sadly, i fear Terry has been crowing, despite being wrong. Again.

Biggy, it's ALWAYS inside side to hold the CB, there is no other way.

[Terry Davidson]

Who, me?.

I am not doubting at all. But my blacks above gave the results above with me and showed me the RHS returned me a lose CB..

I have another go tomoz. Not doubting my previous strikes on the CB though..

Nice boxers in the vid too, mucker xx

He's talking about Biggy's post as he doesn't seem to understand you can't use helping side to hold a cueball. I have no idea how you achieved what you say as it is impossible. To hold the cueball it's inside side all the way, and that's the ONLY way.

[Terry Davidson]

No... biggie took my quote and then said my memory was wrong.

it isn't

Glad you enjoyed my boxers... I am an insult to genetics

That was me regarding your boxers a long time ago when you first posted the videos