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  • Billy
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    Originally Posted by Bigmeek View Post
    Agree 100% but that wasn't my point. My point was that it was a natural shot for a left-hander and a few left handed players would be able to play this shot.
    It wasn't so much the shot (although under any circumstances it could never be called a gimme) but the context in which it was played. That red, coupled with position on the black, virtually guaranteed him a 147 in a frame that would win him the title, and it is those factors that made it such an incredible shot.
    Last edited by Billy; 4 March 2014, 07:40 PM.

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  • scottley
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    Or amphibious.

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  • jb134
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    Originally Posted by billabong View Post
    . . . so frogs aren't ambidextrous then ?

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    I think they're ambivalent......

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  • Bigmeek
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    Originally Posted by billabong View Post
    . . . so frogs aren't ambidextrous then ?

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    Would need to ask Kermit!

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  • billabong
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    Originally Posted by Bigmeek View Post
    Yeah Scottley you're right. The correct definition of ambidextrous is that you can do things equally well with both hands or feet etc. Clearly Ronnie favours his right hand. Still ****e- hot with his left tho. Guess if he played a frame left-handed against Robbo he would lose but he'd beat a lot of other left-handed players I think.
    . . . so frogs aren't ambidextrous then ?

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  • scottley
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    I wonder if he can use the rest left handed? I can just about pot a ball with my left hand without looking too awkward, but if i attempted to use the rest left handed the table would need a new cloth lol.

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  • scottley
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    Top 32 player with his left in my opinion, maybe even top 16.

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  • Bigmeek
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    Yeah Scottley you're right. The correct definition of ambidextrous is that you can do things equally well with both hands or feet etc. Clearly Ronnie favours his right hand. Still ****e- hot with his left tho. Guess if he played a frame left-handed against Robbo he would lose but he'd beat a lot of other left-handed players I think.

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  • scottley
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    Ok, we've seen Ronnie playing left handed for years now but for me it never gets old, i always thought he can only do the simple-ish shots, like a simple stun, or a 10 inch or so screw back, but we've seen him bridging over balls, screwing the length of the table etc, its remarkable, if the definition of ambidextrous is to do something EQUALLY well with EITHER hand, then i'm not convinced his left is as good as his right, although his left is a very high standard.

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  • Bigmeek
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    Originally Posted by scottley View Post
    I'd love to set the shot up (even in practice, never mind with the pressure of a max) for Trump or Robbo, my guess is they would'nt be able to screw past the middle pocket with their other hand.
    Agree 100% but that wasn't my point. My point was that it was a natural shot for a left-hander and a few left handed players would be able to play this shot. Didn't suggest for a second that Robbo or Judd would be able to play it with their opposite hand. Given that Ronnie is ambidextrous he wasn't really playing with his opposite hand. It's no big deal when you're ambidextrous. I know cos there's quite a few things I can do equally well (or bad lol) with both hands. Snooker unfortunately is not one if those things. I've tried potting balls with my opposite hand and struggle to get a red from 6".

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  • scottley
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    Originally Posted by Bigmeek View Post
    Don't agree. Certainly not best shot ever seen. Any of the great left- handers could probably have done it. Robertson, Trump etc could have played the shot just as well IMO. We allow ourselves to get carried away when Ronnie plays left- handed forgetting that he's better with his left hand than a lot of the other players are with their correct hand.....ask Alain Robidoux lol.

    I'd love to set the shot up (even in practice, never mind with the pressure of a max) for Trump or Robbo, my guess is they would'nt be able to screw past the middle pocket with their other hand.

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  • Bigmeek
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    Originally Posted by Holden Chinaski View Post
    Don't agree with you. To screw the cue ball back between pink and black was not easy and he landed perfect on the black. Don't think someone like Trump would have done that. Would have probably over screwed it.
    I agree it's nog the best shot ever, would be hard to say what is, but it's definitely up there with the best.
    Yeah, deffo agree good, more like great, shot.....but.....just to wind you up a bit, lol, think he had a natural angle to go between pink and black? and would "perfect" not be HIGH on the back? Think he ended up LOW? In reality anything from slightly low to 12" high would have been perfect. Think I'll have a go at replicating the shot today at the club although as the cloths are not the superfine variety I probably won't have much success. Easier to screw back on the fine cloths.

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  • Holden Chinaski
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    Originally Posted by Bigmeek View Post
    Don't agree. Certainly not best shot ever seen. Any of the great left- handers could probably have done it. Robertson, Trump etc could have played the shot just as well IMO. We allow ourselves to get carried away when Ronnie plays left- handed forgetting that he's better with his left hand than a lot of the other players are with their correct hand.....ask Alain Robidoux lol.
    Don't agree with you. To screw the cue ball back between pink and black was not easy and he landed perfect on the black. Don't think someone like Trump would have done that. Would have probably over screwed it.

    I agree it's nog the best shot ever, would be hard to say what is, but it's definitely up there with the best.

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  • Bigmeek
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    Originally Posted by BarryH View Post
    “The last red that Ronnie got, left-handed into the green pocket and screwing back almost the length of the table to be perfect on the black, is the best shot I have ever seen." Stephen Hendry
    http://www.inside-snooker.com/snooke...nlym4fyy9fzbrj
    And my favourite quote, David Hendon quoting Shelley: "Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair."
    http://www.inside-snooker.com/snooke...4wt9y2rzfm0urx
    Don't agree. Certainly not best shot ever seen. Any of the great left- handers could probably have done it. Robertson, Trump etc could have played the shot just as well IMO. We allow ourselves to get carried away when Ronnie plays left- handed forgetting that he's better with his left hand than a lot of the other players are with their correct hand.....ask Alain Robidoux lol.

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  • BarryH
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    “The last red that Ronnie got, left-handed into the green pocket and screwing back almost the length of the table to be perfect on the black, is the best shot I have ever seen." Stephen Hendry
    http://www.inside-snooker.com/snooke...nlym4fyy9fzbrj

    And my favourite quote, David Hendon quoting Shelley: "Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair."
    http://www.inside-snooker.com/snooke...4wt9y2rzfm0urx

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