Welsh Open 2014 - Discussion

[missneworleans]

Wow, looks like Ronnie's fear factor is just too big or something, both this and Masters final could have gone either way but Selby and Ding just never played, not like Ronnie was really playing well. Maybe playing less events is the key, Ding looks very tired

[luke-h]

As predicted Ding crumbling, im sure he will pick up a couple of frames tonight but O'Sullivan will win very comfortably

[Dr_Doctor]

I was hoping to see two players playing at their best but it's turned out to be just one player playing good. I guess it's entertaining if you're a Ronnie fan, but I want drama and I don't think I'm going to get it. I'll probably return to this forum in the next tournament.

[cueman]

As long as ding attempts to build breaks and plays good safeties, I wouldn't say ding has given up as cueman puts it.

Back in the 2007 Masters, Ding didn't bother at all in the last few frames.

He has as much as given up given some of the shots he has taken on IMO. He is not like a Selby or Robertson who have a determination even miles behind to make the opponent win the match. That is why I said in my post earlier today that Ding plays into Ronnie's hands because he plays an open attacking game and sometimes it borders on reckless.

He doesn't possess a 'b' game. His safety is fairly good against most top players but against the very top players I still think it lacks a little and he never plays attacking safety shots. Its always a negative shot more to contain rather than force an error. I put that down to his development as a young player learning his trade in China where he wouldn't have needed much of a safety game because his potting and breakbuilding is good. That goes for most the chinese and thai players though, not their fault they play the game like that.

[Odrl]

Ding, like so many others today, are good against players they can dominate against, however it would be a travesty if this guy was to go on and win multiple world championships because his game doesn't deserve it. Had he played in the 90's era he would be lucky to have a tournament win to his name. People go on about his breakbuilding but that is all he has. HE hasn't got bottle and he gives up when far behind in matches. That isn't the making of a great player.

Overstatement of the year. :wink: The guy has won ranking finals against Ronnie O'Sullivan, John Higgins and Stephen Hendry, so I don't see why he would need luck to win a title in the 90s.

I don't have much positive to say about him today either, but he deserves a bit more respect I think. Anyone can have a bad day, and he will still have have won four of his five major finals this season even after he loses tonight. :wink:

[cyberheater]

the game is not yet finished dude..

You should put a grand on Ding. He's good for it.

[Dr_Doctor]

As long as ding attempts to build breaks and plays good safeties, I wouldn't say ding has given up as cueman puts it.

Back in the 2007 Masters, Ding didn't bother at all in the last few frames.

[blowfish]

awful from Ding and just backs up what Ronnie said last week that the game is in a poor state if someone like him can come in and not play at his best and beat these so called top players.

Ding, like so many others today, are good against players they can dominate against, however it would be a travesty if this guy was to go on and win multiple world championships because his game doesn't deserve it. Had he played in the 90's era he would be lucky to have a tournament win to his name. People go on about his breakbuilding but that is all he has. HE hasn't got bottle and he gives up when far behind in matches. That isn't the making of a great player.

Don't disagree with most points, but I gotta point out the bottle Ding has shown in the past 12 months has been examplary. I mean he's faced match frames many times this season and came back to win in dominant fashion against some of the very best of the modern era. It's just that the thought of playing Ronnie seems to does his head in all the time. The pressure of wanting to beat his snooker hero just crumbles his game each time they meet.

[scottley]

*BIGGEST SHOCK SO FAR*

BBC Wales stays with the Snooker instead of switching to cycling!

[cueman]

awful from Ding and just backs up what Ronnie said last week that the game is in a poor state if someone like him can come in and not play at his best and beat these so called top players.

Ding, like so many others today, are good against players they can dominate against, however it would be a travesty if this guy was to go on and win multiple world championships because his game doesn't deserve it. Had he played in the 90's era he would be lucky to have a tournament win to his name. People go on about his breakbuilding but that is all he has. HE hasn't got bottle and he gives up when far behind in matches. That isn't the making of a great player.

[scottley]

the odd now is 29.00 for ding at bet365.i think i have to put another 200pounds on it now.ill share with u guys each 20pounds for supporting me if i win

Put a screen shot up of your bet then, i'm sorry i just dont believe anyone would keep on increasing there bet on a player going further and further behind.

[Dr_Doctor]

the odd now is 29.00 for ding at bet365.i think i have to put another 200pounds on it now.ill share with u guys each 20pounds for supporting me if i win

I think the only way ronnie could lose is if he suddenly shakes hands with ding and then walks off for no apparent reason.

[cheebai]

the odd now is 29.00 for ding at bet365.i think i have to put another 200pounds on it now.ill share with u guys each 20pounds for supporting me if i win

[Dr_Doctor]

Right ol' drubbing. The way Ding is playing is nothing like he has shown so far this season. The pressure of playing Ronnie is just messing him up so bad mentally. Total meltdown

I can't remember the last time Ronnie had a high quality close match. Ronnie seems to charge ahead right before his opponent settles in nowadays.

[scottley]

If you think Ronnie gets all the way to a ranking final just to lose it, you should seek professional help.

Either they are the biggest Ding fan ever or a Millionaire lol, i wish i was their bookmaker.