Shanghai Masters 2015 - Discussion

[Hal]

Live stream here: http://snookerroom.tv/live/
I think, there is no coverage on TV in Europe.

This time I am rooting for Trump really lot. I just dont like Wilson is cueing .... It hurts my eyes.

[Byrom]

Well looks to me like he would benefit more from a nice steak n chips - but this is a discussion for another thread - enjoy your snooker n have a nice weekend.

[tetricky]

Hi Pat - does he look healthy though? - nope not to me he don't.....

Has it occurred to you that your interpretation of visual indicators of health may not be objectively correct? I'm not in an authoritative position to say whether he's healthy or not, but I see a lot of people walking around on 'ordinary diets' that look a lot less healthy to me.

I'm not sure that 'he looks a bit milky, it must be his funny diet' is necessarily an objective assessment from a sports science perspective.

[robertmac]

Trump in the finals which is always exciting.
Allen seems to run out of energy and tire
easily. He didnt seem to be in the match.
Wilson played better tho and deserved the
win. Good match up for the finals.
Trump should take it handily.

[DeanH]

Just finished watching the Bingham/Trump match - started off superbly for both getting clearances and table time, then Bingham seem to lose his focus after the MSI.
Looking forward to watching the non-live Wilson/Allen match later

[Byrom]

It's the wrong thread and probably the wrong forum for this one mate, so I'll keep it brief. That 40 year old guy just ran practically 2 marathons a day, every day, for a month and a half. Think about that, 47 miles a day every day for 46 days and not just over flat ground either. Can you honestly believe he was not perfectly fit and healthy? He clearly does not suffer from a lack of stamina, which was my original point.

And if the western diet is so nutritious and cow's milk so good for us, why are our hospitals at bursting point, crammed with people who are riddled with osteoporosis, diabetes and all sorts of cancers? It's your point of view and you are entitled to it as you say, but If you're interested, take a look at "The China Study" by Dr. T. Colin Campbell.

Anyway, I'll leave it there, and apologies to all for the off-topic.

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Hi Pat - does he look healthy though? - nope not to me he don't. If you click on my link on my previous post you will see that it refers to your Chinese study which many vegans wrongly quote - I don't agree is valid for the reasons the link states so by all means read it first and agree or disagree - but yeah this is a discussion for another time so please read my link and give me your thoughts after by all means.

http://authoritynutrition.com/top-5-...terrible-idea/

Now seem to be dis - agreeing with a few things today - not like me - must be in need of some relaxation - so I am off to get drunk and party the night away - no hard feelings to anyone - Enjoy the snooker

[PatBlock]

Show me a committed vegan who looks healthy Pat?

It's the wrong thread and probably the wrong forum for this one mate, so I'll keep it brief. That 40 year old guy just ran practically 2 marathons a day, every day, for a month and a half. Think about that, 47 miles a day every day for 46 days and not just over flat ground either. Can you honestly believe he was not perfectly fit and healthy? He clearly does not suffer from a lack of stamina, which was my original point.

And if the western diet is so nutritious and cow's milk so good for us, why are our hospitals at bursting point, crammed with people who are riddled with osteoporosis, diabetes and all sorts of cancers? It's your point of view and you are entitled to it as you say, but If you're interested, take a look at "The China Study" by Dr. T. Colin Campbell.

Anyway, I'll leave it there, and apologies to all for the off-topic.

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[finabb]

Just started to watch Allen V Wilson.........whats with all the kicks, it spoiling the match for me, I'm guessing it's the environment in the arena.
Aramith must be able to introduce something into the balls to stop this or even some type of cleaner

[DeanH]

Yeah no problem I have owned various sets of both - so just drawing a comparison from what I see. It says the main characteristic - but its not the only difference Dean so I think that is a slightly wrong quote they use.

It would be good if there was another ball manufacturer - Aramith don't have any competition.

yep, since Aramith bought ought BCE and others they do seem to have a monopoly, who makes the American pool balls?
Brunswick still going?

[Byrom]

Yeah no problem I have owned various sets of both - so just drawing a comparison from what I see. It says the main characteristic - but its not the only difference Dean so I think that is a slightly wrong quote they use.

It would be good if there was another ball manufacturer - Aramith don't have any competition.

[DeanH]

on the Aramith site they themselves call them TCs, and only difference is the weight tolerance across a set:
"The main characteristic of this set is the maximum weight tolerance allowed : while the maximum weight difference between balls in a regular Aramith Tournament Champion snooker set (or a Super Crystalate snooker set) is 3 grams (official specifications), the maximum weight tolerance of our special W.S.A. set is only 1 gram."

so we agree to disagree

[Byrom]

They are slightly different colour and slightly different weight too so no not the same manufacture entirely Dean - they made to a more exacting standard.

[DeanH]

I think that is wrong Dean - the reason you see them in a box on TV and confuse them for TC's is because they come that way to world snooker now - these are 1g's they are using not TC.

I think the handles and hinges on the old 1G boxes kept breaking - They where a bit rubbish - so they just put them in the boxes instead for world snooker - if you looked closely on the tournament champion looking box - you would see a big round sticker on the box that says 1G.

sorry Byrom, the 1g set are Aramith TCs, in a weak ali cases yes; except a season or two ago, Aramith supplied them to WS in cardboard boxes with a sticker on the outside, as Aramith had run out of the ali cases
Yes World Snooker are supplied with 1g sets for the events, but they are still Aramith TC balls.
maybe they have stopped the ali cases to WS as they can sell the ali cases sets to Joe Public for an extortionate price, WS can be stuffed with cardboard boxes

regardless of the packaging - they are all Aramith TCs - 1g or 3g sets - they use the same material, the same manufacturing process, just sorted at the end by weight and placed with others to create a range across the set.

[Byrom]

I think Dean - the reason you see them in a box on TV and the reason some people confuse them for TC's is because they come that way to world snooker now - these are 1g's they are using not TC.

I think the handles and hinges on the old 1G boxes kept breaking - They where a bit rubbish - so they just put them in the boxes instead for world snooker - if you looked closely on the tournament champion looking box - you would see a big round sticker on the box that says 1G.

[DeanH]

Oh I didnt know Aramith did the TC's in a 1g range.
Yes I recall seeing a vid of I think it was Yan Verhaas applying some polish.
Murphy did some research on it too.

Aramith TCs either in a 1g set or 3g set are the same balls but that they have been sorted after manufacture into the weight ranges.
The 1g placed in the ali case, the 3g into the cardboard box - they are still the same balls, same material, same manufacturing process, same work-line.
Yeap, seen that Jan ver Haas video as well, that is why I think it was the usual Aramith cleaner because of the bottle on the rail looked the same as the Cleaner
Murphy's website had a long piece on kicks (don't think I ever read to end of it...)