Shanghai Masters 2015 - Discussion

[scottley]

Great clearance on the colours there, great yellow and green in particular!

[scottley]

Bingham must be kicking himself snookering himself on the red he needed to go 3-2 up, just as i write Judd misses a sitter lol.

[streamer45]

That's a decent start

[SnookerFan]

Wakey, Wakey.

Hands off snakey.

[Byrom]

Show me a committed vegan who looks healthy Pat? - look at the state of Robertson and Peter Ebdon compared to what they did look like - they both look drawn and gaunt and their clothes hang off them, skin and bones - they might feel healthy but they don't look it to me - can you really get all the nutrition eating like they do?

We where born with teeth for a reason - or we would just have gums to suck grapes and dairy is good for healthy bones, our bodies need the protein and calcium it provides. Sorry I might be completely wrong but just my opinion - people like Peter Ebdon are drawn to things like this - he loves all that conspiracy fear factor stuff and nonsense - so no surprise to me he has bought into this fear factor stuff associated with promoting becoming a vegan.

I think its a dangerous thing to promote personally and I hope Robertson reads this and brushes it aside like a trial diet or something because I like the bloke but I don't think this vegan thing is doing him or Peter any good at all.

http://authoritynutrition.com/top-5-...terrible-idea/

[mikeyd100]

no, the balls are Aramith Tournament Champions in a 1g range set, where a normal TC set are 3g range.
What they tried during last season was to use a cleaner on the balls before each match to try to reduce the chances of kicks, varying results. What the cleaner was, not sure but it could be the usual Aramith ball cleaner just used more often?

Oh I didnt know Aramith did the TC's in a 1g range.
Yes I recall seeing a vid of I think it was Yan Verhaas applying some polish.
Murphy did some research on it too.

[PatBlock]

yeah but look at the guys arms and legs seen more meat on a butchers pencil

I think you're confusing "meat" with fat.

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[Byrom]

yeah but look at the guys arms and legs seen more meat on a butchers pencil

[PatBlock]

Robertson looking rather gaunt, no need for meat though, just some dairy and eggs to put on some weight and improve stamina.

On the contrary:

http://adventureblog.nationalgeograp...-speed-record/

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[cueman]

Not only are conditions awful but some of these refs are as well. Trump v Williams - the players had to correct her when she didn't warn Trump for a possible 3 misses and the frame. You could hear her saying that both sides couldn't be hit but Williams had to tell her that the rule was a full ball hit was on so Trump had to be warned.

It's pretty dire for something like that to happen in a major ranking title of your sport. Can you imagine in cricket or tennis for example, of the players correcting an officials decision because they didn't know the rules?

Yes I saw that, Trump looked a bit confused and embarrassed to have to tell her that was the rule.

Also in the Allen match the ref tried to spot the pink even though he couldn't see the centre of the spot with his ball marker. Allen kept climbing onto the table to look directly at the centre of the cross where the ball marker is lined up to and eventually asked Davis if he was okay for the pink to go onto the black spot. The ref kept nudging the ball marker closer to the red next to the pink spot and at one point you could see it was touching the red and looked to have moved it a fraction, he just seemed determined to spot the pink so that Allen couldn't continue the break.

I don't know what is going on with the refs in the game right now but it seems like they are getting anyone to ref the game now just to make up the numbers. They seemingly have a quota of chinese and european refs that it seems must be involved in tournaments depending on where they are staged. Surely that isn't right and must be a cost cutting measure due to not wanting to pay for travel expenses.

[Byrom]

How good was that nerve jangler - Kyren Wilson looks like he lost a stone in weight during that last frame there - good win

[DeanH]

Yeah there has been quite a few kicks.
Am I correct in saying that they changed balls from the 1G to the Aramith Tournaments to try stop the kicks ?

no, the balls are Aramith Tournament Champions in a 1g range set, where a normal TC set are 3g range.
What they tried during last season was to use a cleaner on the balls before each match to try to reduce the chances of kicks, varying results. What the cleaner was, not sure but it could be the usual Aramith ball cleaner just used more often?

[guernseygooner]

Just watching Allen vs Mark Davis and honestly its probably the worst conditions I think I've ever witnessed at a pro ranking event. There must have been over 30 kicks in this match in 5 frames and this 6th frame there has probably been at least a dozen awful kicks for both players.

This seems to happen every time they play in china and surely World snooker need to consider hosting events in countries where conditions are more suitable. It must be terrible for players who are playing for their livelyhood and yet its really down to luck as to who gets the least amount of kicks in a match which determines the outcome. I don't know of any other sport where the conditions play the biggest part in who wins. For snooker to be able to appeal to a bigger audience and to get more players playing the game, surely they have to do something about conditions now!

Not only are conditions awful but some of these refs are as well. Trump v Williams - the players had to correct her when she didn't warn Trump for a possible 3 misses and the frame. You could hear her saying that both sides couldn't be hit but Williams had to tell her that the rule was a full ball hit was on so Trump had to be warned.

It's pretty dire for something like that to happen in a major ranking title of your sport. Can you imagine in cricket or tennis for example, of the players correcting an officials decision because they didn't know the rules?

[mikeyd100]

Yeah there has been quite a few kicks.
Am I correct in saying that they changed balls from the 1G to the Aramith Tournaments to try stop the kicks ?

[scottley]

Yes, those two kicks at the end of the frame (Davis v Allen) were horrid, they must play your mind every shot when they are coming that regular.