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  • Well done Mark on your 3rd World title. So when is the naked post match interviews? 8-P

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    • Originally Posted by kibo View Post
      Higgins was as tough as stone but i think he was getting more nervous once there was option for him to go to front..
      Some mental scars and/or too big desire to win it stagnated him a bit i guess...
      This is always a critical point. If you feel you've got nothing to lose - i.e. being 7-14 behind - there's less pressure and it's easier to play.

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      • Great final. Probably in my top 5, the only one i've really got into since higgins/trump. Second entry in my top 5 for Williams, alongside his last win against Matthew Stevens. Still waiting for a final to knock 1994 off my top spot, I'd love to see a youngster come through and beat someone like ROS 18-17

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        • Originally Posted by the lone wolf View Post
          Sight Right it is boys! Sight Right...
          Steve Feeney's Mrs is in for a treat tonight....
          It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

          Wibble

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          • Originally Posted by kibo View Post
            Legit...
            Dunno about Hendry as he retired too early maybe...
            Hendry was nowhere near the same player by time he retired - he was still a threat and could raise his game against O'Sullivan in particular, but he wasn't winning tournaments, wasn't even getting past the early rounds. You could argue the same of Williams, but Hendry lacked the tools for the modern game.

            Thankfully, his much-vaunted comeback was smashed to bits when he was soundly beaten at the world seniors last season.
            Last edited by gavpowell; 7 May 2018, 10:08 PM.

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            • Originally Posted by gavpowell View Post
              Hendry was nowhere near the same player by time he retired - he was still a threat and could raise his game against O'Sullivan in particular, but he wasn't winning tournaments, wasn't even getting past the early rounds. You could argue the same of Williams, but Hendry lacked the tools for the modern game.

              Thankfully, his much-vaunted comeback was smashed to bits when he was soundly beaten at the world seniors last season.
              Maybe he didnt find motivation to train as hard as he used to anymore?
              Or that issue with hand muscles might have been very legit...

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              • Ha ha ha superb sport

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                • Originally Posted by kibo View Post
                  Maybe he didnt find motivation to train as hard as he used to anymore?
                  Or that issue with hand muscles might have been very legit...
                  What issue with hand muscles? He claimed he had the yips but that's more of a mental thing than anything muscle related.

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                  • Originally Posted by kibo View Post
                    Maybe he didnt find motivation to train as hard as he used to anymore?
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                    He said as much on several occasions - it must be difficult when you own almost every record, have made millions in prize money plus sponsorship etc. you have a family and other things you can do with your time. Plus, he never changed his attitude to safety play, and that left him way off the pace when Higgins, O'Sullivan, Williams etc. were all able to play wonderful tactical shots.

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                    • Originally Posted by narl View Post
                      What issue with hand muscles? He claimed he had the yips but that's more of a mental thing than anything muscle related.
                      I meant on yips.
                      The yips is the loss of fine motor skills in athletes. The condition occurs suddenly and without apparent explanation, usually in mature athletes with years of experience. It is poorly understood and has no known treatment or therapy
                      As you can see its unknown teritory..

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                      • A brilliant final,fantastic standard,and well done Mark Williams who is a deserved champion,who written himself off not that long ago,now this is his 4th title of the season,surely the player of the year!

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                        • Originally Posted by kibo View Post
                          There werent great safety battles, were there?
                          Originally Posted by alajet View Post
                          Not many, but there was some great single-ball potting and break building going on, especially today.
                          the 90s style of attacking snooker imposed on the game by hendry, and the lads of 92 took it to another level, as we saw toninght, played fast and fluent by middle age men with x6 nuts between them.

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                          • Originally Posted by kibo View Post
                            I meant on yips.

                            As you can see its unknown teritory..
                            Its basically the same as dartitis, unable to let go of the dart properly.


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                            • Great final, totally blown away by both of their games.

                              I wonder what the odds were of both of them at their age getting to the final!
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                              • Well, what can you say after a match like that...

                                Unfortunately I had to miss the start of the session, but I made an excellent decision to watch it in full with an hour's delay, so I almost got my midnight finish in the end. :smile: It has to be said that John Higgins is an amazing player in these situations, he played almost perfect snooker before the interval, and he showed no nerves whatsoever when he made all those clearances from behind. It reminded me of the way he came back against Maguire in the SF of the 2007 World Championship, and also against Trump in the 2012 Shanghai Masters final. The only difference was, Williams stood up to the pressure and played well himself after the interval. Higgins won the session 6-3, and if he had played to that standard throughout the final, he would have won it, but there is no doubt Williams was the better player over four sessions.

                                I've mentioned before that my mother likes to hate on Williams whenever he is losing, pretending as if she doesn't really like him, but I know she will be delighted he was able to win tonight. "You idiot! You led 14-7 and now you are going to lose. This was your last chance to win something, so you may as well retire tomorrow!" :smile: Those were her words when the score was 15-13 I think, and I know she couldn't stand to watch the ending, so she will be pleasantly surprised tomorrow. I have to confess I was getting worried for Williams myself, especially with those setbacks he suffered against Higgins in the 2010/2011 season in similar positions, but tonight he finally got some redemption. All in all, he didn't quite play to the same standard as he did in the German Masters, but it was still enough to get the title. We've been lucky to see some really great final sessions in the WC in the time I've been watching snooker, and tonight ranks very high on my list of favourites. Couldn't really have wished for a better ending to the season. As Higgins very graciously said, Williams is a worthy champion.

                                All in all, this year's Championship didn't really have too many classic moments, but I still enjoyed most of it. I would have preferred a few of the top players playing better than they did, but I suppose one can't have everything. :smile: I don't wish to dwell on anything negative after such a fine evening of snooker, but I can't resist complaining about the Eurosport coverage again. They clearly don't have much respect for viewers on the continent, because they repeatedly cut to commercials in the middle of a commentator's sentence, and we don't even get any introduction at the start of the broadcast anymore. Also, there were several sessions where they were showing one table and had sound from the other one, or even sound from another sport altogether. I have no problem with mistakes like that happening from time to time, but to go on for several frames without anyone noticing and correcting it is unprofessional and lazy to the extreme. On the positive side, the channels on the Eurosport Player had BBC commentary throughout the tournament, which I'm sure must have been unintentional. I didn't want to comment on that before, just in case someone at Eurosport read my comment and corrected the issue, but I can now say that I was very happy to be offered a choice of commentators for a change, especially when Yates was commentating. :wink: It was also interesting to hear Ronnie O'Sullivan commentating for extended periods, and while his commentary leaves a lot to be desired, he was still quite interesting at times, and I can't imagine anyone more fitting to commentate on a final between Higgins and Williams. :smile:

                                It was also unfortunate to hear so much talk about table conditions again... I've long ago given up any hope that the pockets will be consistent from tournament to tournament, but they could have at least made an effort to not have them be overly generous in the World Championship. Also, O'Sullivan mentioned in commentary that Higgins complained to him about the table being "terrible" during the final. It's a little poor to have anything other than perfect conditions for a World final in all honesty, although I have to confess I didn't really see anything unusual myself. But then again, Higgins would know better, wouldn't he...

                                That's it then... This might be my last post of any substance for a while, so I hope everyone has a great summer. :smile:

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