2018 World Championship

[Billy]

That's right. I read it the wrong way. Sorry.

No problem

I’d love to know what the fascination is with these punters in the background, of getting their face on camera. I’m probably just a miserable grumpy old fart, but do they not realise how moronic they appear to others?

[JimMalone]

Ha ha it was a shocker of a cue but he loved it, makes his win even more of a great feat, ps I had £2 on him at 300/1 months before it started.

Did you make his cue? :smile:

[bigandyg]

Especially when you consider he won it with a really dodgy, poorly made cue... eh Andy? x

Ha ha it was a shocker of a cue but he loved it, makes his win even more of a great feat, ps I had £2 on him at 300/1 months before it started.

[JimMalone]

Well I never suggested he wasn't a good player to be fair. Just that he doesn't impress me.

That's right. I read it the wrong way. Sorry.

[Billy]

Well, how can somebody, who became World Champion in Snooker not be at least a "good player"?

I think there have been better players that have never been World Champion and I wouldn't include him in my Top 8 (or maybe Top 10) active players, but his performance in the 2015 edition, when he grabbed the title, was quite impressive to me.

Well I never suggested he wasn't a good player to be fair. Just that he doesn't impress me.

ebdon is an excellent commentator

He over-enthuses for my liking. Everything he says is peppered with accolades and superlatives.

[JimMalone]

Across era rankings I agree. Stats don't work unless they are normalised for their era. And even then it's not ideal.

For current world rankings though there's no other way to do it.

Yeah, therefore you have the world rankings and this works quite fine in Snooker I think.

[strike101]

I love stats and I love talking about rankings, but I'm sceptical when it comes to using only stats for a ranking. There are many more things to be included.

Across era rankings I agree. Stats don't work unless they are normalised for their era. And even then it's not ideal.

For current world rankings though there's no other way to do it.

[strike101]

I was going to say the same thing.

No, I'm a semi-retired Math/Physics teacher. I've always been very interested in sports statistics. Growing up in Canada I was a big baseball fan and that sport is great for statistical analysis. I'm big into fantasy sports (baseball, basketball, and hockey) where you use a lot of stats to choose the players for your team.

I've gotten more into snooker in the last 10 years since I moved to Europe. I think it's an endlessly fascinating game. PM me your email address and I can send you a spreadsheet I made which ranks the players all time based on a point system I devised.

Fascinating mate.

I'm a Data Scientist by trade myself so I am the epitome of the work "Geek". Coupled with my love for Sport you can imagine the endless number crunching i've done in my time! Snooker is a fascinating sport for statistics aswel.

I've pm'd you my email address

[armstm]

ie Hendry started playing

I meant even before Dott's win. Towards the end of the 90s 50 became about the norm whereas in the 80s it never went above 20. The standard has been steadily improving over the last 20 years but there really was a remarkable jump from the 80s and early 90s to the late 90s and beyond.

[vilkrang]

Performances in sports are always improving. Dott may not have scoring many high breaks, but he had other qualities he brought to the table in the 2006 World Championship.

I meant even before Dott's win. Towards the end of the 90s 50 became about the norm whereas in the 80s it never went above 20. The standard has been steadily improving over the last 20 years but there really was a remarkable jump from the 80s and early 90s to the late 90s and beyond.

[JimMalone]

Do you mean the fact that players played in different eras and faced varying levels of competition?

Yes, for example.

[Stony152]

I love stats and I love talking about rankings, but I'm sceptical when it comes to using only stats for a ranking. There are many more things to be included.

What do you mean? To me the numbers don't lie. How else would you compare two players other than their results and stats? Do you mean the fact that players played in different eras and faced varying levels of competition?

[JimMalone]

I've gotten more into snooker in the last 10 years since I moved to Europe. I think it's an endlessly fascinating game. PM me your email address and I can send you a spreadsheet I made which ranks the players all time based on a point system I devised.

I love stats and I love talking about rankings, but I'm sceptical when it comes to using only stats for a ranking. There are many more things to be included.

[Stony152]

please start your own thread elsewhere (or get a room somewhere :biggrin as you have confused the hell out of at least one TSF member here

Sorry. I got a bit carried away.

[Stony152]

I think I've found my internet soulmate.......

Top stuff there mate. Do you do Analytics as a profession?

I was going to say the same thing.

No, I'm a semi-retired Math/Physics teacher. I've always been very interested in sports statistics. Growing up in Canada I was a big baseball fan and that sport is great for statistical analysis. I'm big into fantasy sports (baseball, basketball, and hockey) where you use a lot of stats to choose the players for your team.

I've gotten more into snooker in the last 10 years since I moved to Europe. I think it's an endlessly fascinating game. PM me your email address and I can send you a spreadsheet I made which ranks the players all time based on a point system I devised.