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    Ronnie O’Sullivan has never enjoyed playing Mark Selby. In his recent autobiography, Running, he described the Leicester man as ‘The Torturor,’ which was a compliment so back-handed it could earn him a place in Britain’s Davis Cup team.


    But in fact Selby didn’t torture O’Sullivan to win European Tour event 7 in Antwerp tonight – he just played really well.


    He also proved that if you apply real, tangible pressure to O’Sullivan he can feel it, just like any other player can.


    Few did this at the Crucible earlier this year and O’Sullivan’s big match temperament is such that he if he gets in front he frequently converts a lead into a victory.


    But Selby took the game to him and it worked. In the decider, O’Sullivan missed a straightforward pot and Selby cleared for his 4-3 victory.


    It’s his first title of the season and means he has now won five Players Tour Championship tournaments – more than anyone else.


    As O’Sullivan put it afterwards, in sport some days you win and some you lose. The world champion certainly showed signs of becoming match fit ahead of the UK Championship at the end of this month.


    This event was superbly supported by enthusiastic and respectful Belgian snooker fans and they were treated to some compelling snooker.


    Judd Trump made the first maximum of his professional career on Friday night – and the 99th in snooker history – but was beaten by Selby.


    Jack Lisowski, inconsistent but on his day brilliant, had a good run to the semi-finals but was also beaten by Selby, as was in form Ding Junhui, who was oddly subdued in the quarter-finals.


    The field for the Grand Finals – venue as yet unannounced – is filling up with quality players with just the Gdynia event plus one more in Asia to come.



    The action moves to the Ricoh Arena in Coventry on Tuesday for the inaugural Champion of Champions tournament.


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  • #2
    Ronnie being 3-1 up against most players the match would have been more or less over with. Selby has fought back so many times to win huge matches it's quite incredible.

    Surely a world title will be coming his way fairly soon

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    • #3
      to beat, Trump. Lisowski, Ding and then O'sullivan, he surely deserves it. no one can say he had an easy ride. all that is missing now from his CV is the World Championship title which i can see him winning soon.

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      • #4
        'the torturor' is an apt descriptor for the most boring professional player ever to pick up a cue (and that includes cliff thorburn, rod lawler, rory mcleod)

        also, the worst sport in the game. how can anyone looking at his sulky expressions while making a break not feel pressured - he looks like he wants to kill you. just look at his expressions in frames 3 and 4 of the 2013 antwerp open final while ronnie was cleaning up - no wonder ronnie was so turned off afterwards

        here are some examples:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X1MAJAixK4
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ed12xqhjJY
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjGM-0kIwsk
        Last edited by arbitrage; 18th November 2013, 06:56 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by arbitrage View Post
          'the torturor' is an apt descriptor for the most boring professional player ever to pick up a cue (and that includes cliff thorburn, rod lawler, rory mcleod)

          also, the worst sport in the game. how can anyone looking at his sulky expressions while making a break not feel pressured - he looks like he wants to you. just look at his expressions in frames 3 and 4 of the 2013 antwerp open final while ronnie was cleaning up - no wonder ronnie was so turned off afterwards

          here are some examples:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X1MAJAixK4
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ed12xqhjJY
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjGM-0kIwsk
          Well, this is a new one. Selby didn't look happy when Ronnie made a break, so the guy lost. I've suspected some mental weakness from Ronnie's part when it comes to beating Selby but I didn't realize it had reached such lengths.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by arbitrage View Post
            'the torturor' is an apt descriptor for the most boring professional player ever to pick up a cue (and that includes cliff thorburn, rod lawler, rory mcleod)

            also, the worst sport in the game. how can anyone looking at his sulky expressions while making a break not feel pressured - he looks like he wants to kill you. just look at his expressions in frames 3 and 4 of the 2013 antwerp open final while ronnie was cleaning up - no wonder ronnie was so turned off afterwards

            here are some examples:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X1MAJAixK4
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ed12xqhjJY
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjGM-0kIwsk
            You should really admire the man if he can beat ROS just by looking at him

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            • #7
              All jokes aside - I dont get the ones bashing Selby for not being so naturally talented as e.g. ROS. None of us can really learn anything from ROS - hes just too good. But all can learn from Selby - his mentality is an inspiration imo. Never gives up even against a player like ROS, the greatest player of them all. Shows how far you can go with strategy, will power and winner mentality which is exactly what will win games for the average player instead of thinking you can play like ROS

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              • #8
                Originally posted by arbitrage View Post
                'the torturor' is an apt descriptor for the most boring professional player ever to pick up a cue (and that includes cliff thorburn, rod lawler, rory mcleod)

                also, the worst sport in the game. how can anyone looking at his sulky expressions while making a break not feel pressured - he looks like he wants to kill you. just look at his expressions in frames 3 and 4 of the 2013 antwerp open final while ronnie was cleaning up - no wonder ronnie was so turned off afterwards


                here are some examples:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X1MAJAixK4
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ed12xqhjJY
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjGM-0kIwsk

                How should he react when his opponents clearing up then? He just looks a picture of concentration to me.
                After 15 reds and 15 blacks i did this http://youtu.be/DupuczMS2o4

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                • #9
                  I think selby is one of the only players that isnt mentally beat when playing ROS and thats the difference. No matter what they say most players are except maybe Robertson. The rest hope hes having a bad day or that things will somehow go their way but if hes playing well and gets away they find it easy to give up.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scottley View Post
                    How should he react when his opponents clearing up then? He just looks a picture of concentration to me.
                    rage is the operative word

                    and when he is not giving his opponent dirty looks, he is either wasting time & slowing play down or engaging in some other antics to put his opponent off

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI3jxVmLCQw
                    Last edited by arbitrage; 18th November 2013, 10:29 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mibrandt View Post
                      You should really admire the man if he can beat ROS just by looking at him
                      well, ronnie is probably just disinterested in playing with him... and who can blame him?

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                      • #12
                        I liked the quote on commentary yesterday night, I forget who said it. They were discussing that Ronnie had previously been dismissive of Selby's style and said; "But, then, why should Selby play to Ronnie's strengths?"

                        There seems to be this idea that to beat Ronnie you have to play the same style as him, only better. Mark Selby has his own style, and if Ronnie (or anybody else come to that) doesn't like playing him or struggles against that particular, that's not Selby's problem. What should he do? Say; "Sorry. I'll change my style, to maximise your chances of beating me."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by arbitrage View Post
                          well, ronnie is probably just disinterested in playing with him... and who can blame him?
                          I think he is very interested in playing and beating Selby everytime he gets the opportunity

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SnookerFan View Post
                            I liked the quote on commentary yesterday night, I forget who said it. They were discussing that Ronnie had previously been dismissive of Selby's style and said; "But, then, why should Selby play to Ronnie's strengths?"

                            There seems to be this idea that to beat Ronnie you have to play the same style as him, only better. Mark Selby has his own style, and if Ronnie (or anybody else come to that) doesn't like playing him or struggles against that particular, that's not Selby's problem. What should he do? Say; "Sorry. I'll change my style, to maximise your chances of beating me."

                            Exactly, he is a multiple title winner and former World No1 so he's doing something right.
                            After 15 reds and 15 blacks i did this http://youtu.be/DupuczMS2o4

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SnookerFan View Post
                              I liked the quote on commentary yesterday night, I forget who said it. They were discussing that Ronnie had previously been dismissive of Selby's style and said; "But, then, why should Selby play to Ronnie's strengths?"

                              There seems to be this idea that to beat Ronnie you have to play the same style as him, only better. Mark Selby has his own style, and if Ronnie (or anybody else come to that) doesn't like playing him or struggles against that particular, that's not Selby's problem. What should he do? Say; "Sorry. I'll change my style, to maximise your chances of beating me."
                              his 'style' is mostly about gamesmanship, time wasting and putting off his opponents using toxic tactics. which is exactly what graeme dott went on the record saying in the link i provided. not only ronnie (although he has proven to be more susceptible than others) but most other players would prefer playing a normal game w/o the characteristics outlined above
                              Last edited by arbitrage; 18th November 2013, 10:44 AM.

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