Originally Posted by Terry Davidson
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Your priceless comparison of why SIT disappears with more spin and power was totally bogus Biggy. You said trying to make my way across an ice sheet (very smooth) with a broom (coarse) in no way compares to two polished billiard balls, both smooth. Try this on for size, trying to get off a sheet of ice using a broom handle with a small sheet of ice attached to it. You'd have to wait until the ice melted and swim ashore.
What I find on this debate is the SIT supporters are very fast to feel slighted if anyone questions their faith but their explanations and comparisons are SO WEAK. We have sheet of ice and broom comparison to explain why SIT disappears with more power and spin which just begs belief. Then we have Travis showing how he gets SIT when bending around the pink or potting the pink but he can't explain how he gets that same SIT when the side has worn off the cueball. Logic dictates no spin = no SIT. Then we have Jason who puts up some impressive shots which most of us have been using for decades
if you have been playing these shots for decades why are you scratching your head in how the shot looks like (never mind works) on screen? you dont recognize such familiar shot situations?
and his video doesn't prove much because we're down to a tolerance of millimeters and it's too hard to tell in a video. Jason! When you set up a shot tell us exactly how because you aren't shooting from the pocket. In your video check where the black/red plant is pointed. For a true 1/4-ball is has to be somewhere between the green pocket and side cushion between green and middle pocket. I couldn't really tell where yours was lined up. I tried it lined up to the green pocket but it was too easy.
Travis never shows his SIT justifying shots from behind the pocket and neither did Jason who actually hides the cueball with his body when making the shots. Put the camera behind the shots so those of use who don't believe can actually see proof we can't argue with.
I would hate to be a defendant on trial with you lot defending me, as I would surely hang and go to SIT hell. Put up a shot where it actually shows without any doubt 15* of SIT if you want me to change my mind.
Oh yes, it's going to be 82F or 27C over here today because I'm in SOUTHERN Ontario which is very close to the tropics (if you know your geography)lol
. No sheets of ice yet on our lakes, sorry.
What I find on this debate is the SIT supporters are very fast to feel slighted if anyone questions their faith but their explanations and comparisons are SO WEAK. We have sheet of ice and broom comparison to explain why SIT disappears with more power and spin which just begs belief. Then we have Travis showing how he gets SIT when bending around the pink or potting the pink but he can't explain how he gets that same SIT when the side has worn off the cueball. Logic dictates no spin = no SIT. Then we have Jason who puts up some impressive shots which most of us have been using for decades
if you have been playing these shots for decades why are you scratching your head in how the shot looks like (never mind works) on screen? you dont recognize such familiar shot situations?
and his video doesn't prove much because we're down to a tolerance of millimeters and it's too hard to tell in a video. Jason! When you set up a shot tell us exactly how because you aren't shooting from the pocket. In your video check where the black/red plant is pointed. For a true 1/4-ball is has to be somewhere between the green pocket and side cushion between green and middle pocket. I couldn't really tell where yours was lined up. I tried it lined up to the green pocket but it was too easy.
Travis never shows his SIT justifying shots from behind the pocket and neither did Jason who actually hides the cueball with his body when making the shots. Put the camera behind the shots so those of use who don't believe can actually see proof we can't argue with.
I would hate to be a defendant on trial with you lot defending me, as I would surely hang and go to SIT hell. Put up a shot where it actually shows without any doubt 15* of SIT if you want me to change my mind.
Oh yes, it's going to be 82F or 27C over here today because I'm in SOUTHERN Ontario which is very close to the tropics (if you know your geography)lol
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