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Good win for Dark Mavis.
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Yes, considering the great black he made to make it 9 - 6 but he scraped through in the end 10 - 8, needed a fluke red to help him though ☘Originally Posted by PatBlock View Post
Oh, but that black he missed for the match.
9 - 7 now
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Anyone watch the Antony McGill v He Guoqlang match today? Antony was very very disappointingly poor……everything was wrong with him. Pot success, especially the simple ones, safety and shot selection were all real bad today. It’s impossible to play top class every match but today he was unusually bad. Very frustrating to watch. Just wondering if anyone felt the same and possibly spotted any reason for his poor display? He did have some poor luck mind you in two frames with a red going in on potting a colour but he did have many great chances to fight back but failed. Too easily beaten by the young Chinaman He.
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Thats another new Chinese at the Crucible He Guoqiang , can't see Dale or Grace beating him.
Its thoroughly merited that the Chinese are making such progress and deserved going the other way that there's hardly any new good English players.
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The Chinese snooker body have invested in their players, the star academy, then victoria academy all set up here to help them develop, Ding too has opened his own club. What has world snooker or any of the former or current pros done to help promote young British or English players? Absolutely nothing, Ronnie will open up a club in Asia and do plenty overseas yet he's never done anything but moan and slag off anyone in this country to dare think about having a career in the game.
It's typical selfish British mindset, people who do well pull up the ladder and deny opportunities for others. Snooker will be dead in the UK in another decade, especially with the way our economy is.Comment
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^^ What he just said ^^ #65Comment
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You can think that it's all a bit Fu Manchu, china insidiously taking over the world or actually see that the CPC look after their working class and give them opportunities while the capitalists are out to make as much as they can without giving back.Originally Posted by cueman View Post
It's not up to Ronnie or any other individual, the state system in china obviously works, investment for the people rather than the shareholders who lobby parliament. The problem with the UK is that even if there was a UK socialist government that invested in grass roots snooker, any clubs they open would be empty because the interest isn't there.Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
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There's hundreds of kids wanting to go onto the Q Tour and trying to be competitive in the English Amateur system, of course the interest is there loads of them have fathers who love the game.Originally Posted by vmax View Post
They're losing out to the Chinese because the Chinese snooker association dumps on the English one, it isn't complicated.Comment
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Where is this happening then ?Originally Posted by trains View Post
Where I live snooker has practically died at grass roots level while english 8 ball is thriving. Our club has gone from four snooker tables to three and have moved from one pool table to three and are about to remove another snooker table to make room for a fourth pool table. South West Snooker Academy is gone, there're no big clubs in the major south west cities of exeter and plymouth, local leagues are dying on their arses and the best local snooker players are now mainly playing pool. Pool team in our club in Barnstaple are the south west champions while the snooker league has only six teams (three players per team) and no longer affiliate to the devon association so you can see where I'm coming from.
It's dead here, less than 50 players in the local league when there used to be over three hundred in three divisions of twelve five man teams supported by three snooker clubs (now gone) and the local social clubs, amateur circuit no longer reaches here when we used to have the westward ho! tourny every year at the kingsley leisure centre. If it's like this here then I expect it to be the same elsewhere in the UK, it's still england here.
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A prime example of why rankings shouldn't be used to determine TV matches this morning with the commentary match being Chris Wakelin v Lukas Kleckers when there's a former world champ and former semi-finalist on the other tables.Comment
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Quote not working, Vmax post #69
I could go into the crappy Hurricane clubs in Kings Cross, East Acton and Colindale and see plenty of keen kids trying to improve on tables on top of each other, dead cushions not learning any aspects of safety just heaving balls into dead jawed pockets learning nothing.
Generation upon generation of this has occured since we saw O Sullivan in 93, I don't really have a qualm with the top players not doing much to develop the game the problem is much more with World Snooker itself.
As you made a funny comment on here a while ago about Swedish names ? in a Q Tour event in Sweden a while ago, what the ,,,, is that about ? a Q Tour event in Sweden for elevated players on the Q School order of merit when theres hardly ever been any Swedes who've ever played at the Q School and none in any decent position on the order of merit ?
I asked a WST referee on another form what development has there been in a country that held a PTC a few years ago, he mysteriously went awol.
Its layer upon layer of bull,,,, but the interest is there in clubs but its similar to soccer in the EPL, you're probably more likely to play for Arsenal if you're brought up in Ghana than brought up in North London, its been going on for years as well, why is a carthorse like David O Leary shipped over from Ireland when there's loads of lads who'd love to play that position in England who'd be at least as good ?
I'm currently watching Chris Wakelin from Nuneaton on a Bet365 stream, he practices with Selby, Gilbert etc all those players from that area, sorry but nothing remotely special about him at all he's just in the right place thats all just as are the Chinese, i'm not contesting anythinig you're saying but there are loads of kids and teenagers who'd love to be in Wakelin's position in development it just isn't realistic for them.
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Maguire doing well to not get too ticked off at the moment with Hugill's incredibly slow play, makes Selby and Allen look fast this lad
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Do you need commentary to know what's happening ?Originally Posted by snookerfollower View PostSpeak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
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Of course, it's not needed. I do sometimes find it enhances the experience of watching though. Especially in situations where there's 7 other tables and the commentators update you on other tables as you watch rather than having to look it up.Originally Posted by vmax View PostComment
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Noppon 147
played really well to beat Hicks 10 - 5, Hossein was very impressive as was Neil this morning, looking good for judgement day wednesday.
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