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  • #76
    Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
    it was Ronnie who told the referees not to go in front of him as he goes round the table, and now complians they that too long replacing balls
    Yeah, I remember that. I think with "some players moaned" it was already clear, who was clearly one of them

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    • #77
      Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
      it was Ronnie who told the referees not to go in front of him as he goes round the table, and now complians they that too long replacing balls
      Asked the ref's not to move when in front of him more like, watch Len Ganley during his five minute max. Now everyone has to play at Selby's pace which is why average shot times have increased and Selby doesn't look so slow, over to you Odrl

      When the player is in the balls all the ref has to do is step back from the table adjacent to the black spot and keep still until the black has been potted. Then it's only two steps to the pocket and two steps back to the black spot and it can be done before the player has got down for the next red or even before the cue ball has stopped moving.
      The ref should be able to read the break as it happens and when position dictates up for pink or blue he/she should see that and stand accordingly.

      It seems a ref is judged good or bad only on how fast they can walk behind the player and on repositioning balls after a foul and miss and not whether they keep up with the player at the table. Let's face it if you've potted a colour and are down for the next red you don't need the ref walking past you in order to stand behind you again, movement in your eyeline is a killer in this game, and how refs are expected to see very fine kisses on balls on or not on when so far away is beyond me.

      I saw a ref the other week standing behind a player, pink and black left, when he had cue ball on the baulk cushion attempting a very fine snick on the pink which was just sticking out from behind the black on its spot, she must have been fifteen feet away and looking over the players head.

      Maybe the players should have a little form to fill in after each match and tick boxes about the refs performance, even if that happened the 'did the ref keep you waiting' box wouldn't be on it I fear.
      Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
      but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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      • #78
        2019 Welsh Open

        Bond rattled in a lovely 94 in under 12mins. I don't know whether he has taken something or he forgot to take his usual medication but this is wonder snooker
        Up the TSF! :snooker:

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        • #79
          2019 Welsh Open

          vmax - he possibly said that as well but he definitely said don't go in front of me as I go round the table. he said it to the Belgium ref (name escapes me for the mo) at the table caught on mic and he said it again as they walked out at the end and also in interviews.

          I also think that the constant being behind is not correct sometimes, away from the table out of line of sight but this constant walking around and shadowing the player - I find that more disturbing than some one standing still away from the table. Not saying always but a common sense approach as per shot on requires, a mix best suited to what is happening on the table
          Last edited by DeanH; 13 February 2019, 10:46 AM.
          Up the TSF! :snooker:

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          • #80
            Right. :smile:

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            • #81
              2019 Welsh Open

              a much relieved Jimmy Robertson takes the 4th frame from Bond, looking to the heavens as he goes back to his chair
              Up the TSF! :snooker:

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              • #82
                Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
                vmax - he possibly said that as well but he definitely said don't go in front of me as I go round the table. he said it to the Belgium ref (name escapes me for the mo) at the table caught on mic and he said it again as they walked out at the end and also in interviews.

                I also think that the constant being behind is not correct sometimes, away from the table out of line of sight but this constant walking around and shadowing the player - I find that more disturbing than some one standing still away from the table. Not saying always but a common sense approach as per shot on requires, a mix best suited to what is happening on the table
                "Don't go in front of me as I go round the table" but if they're already there and spotting the colour before he gets there there's nothing to complain about.
                The ref got in his way several times yesterday as Ronnie was up and moving to the next shot quickly, he had to come from behind him all the time, caught his cue one time, and no one likes being followed Dean, it's human nature that.

                I have a hard time telling certain people in our league reffing my matches (I'm a very fast player) not to move when I'm down on the shot, "I'm only getting out of your way way" is the cry I hear and even explaining that I don't see them until they move falls on deaf ears and they do it again next shot
                I was escorted out of the local Police Club by two coppers once when this happened over again and I demanded another ref and a big argument kicked off, they told me that they knew my name and had my number and they'd be watching out for me, "make sure there's more than one of you then" I said and nothing ever happened.
                Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                • #83
                  2019 Welsh Open

                  Thrown out of a police club! excellent

                  Of course if already there then ok but Ronnie wants them to follow him if they have to go to the other side of the table to collect a ball.
                  Last edited by DeanH; 13 February 2019, 11:24 AM.
                  Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                  • #84
                    2019 Welsh Open

                    lovely 140 by Jack Lisowski
                    Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                    • #85
                      2019 Welsh Open

                      104 by Jimmy Robertson, game on
                      Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                      • #86
                        Robertson beats Bond in a good tassle at the end there, good match
                        Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                        • #87
                          So, who's the best Bond then?

                          I don't particularly like any of them, but I guess I would have to go for Connery. Moore is a good laugh as well, but it's impossible to regard of any his Bond films as anything other than silly comedies. What do you think? :smile:

                          Edit: Oh, wrong forum. Sorry. :smile:

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                          • #88
                            2019 Welsh Open

                            connery



                            o'Donnell - cracking result against Walden.
                            Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                            • #89
                              Originally Posted by Odrl View Post
                              So, who's the best Bond then?

                              I don't particularly like any of them, but I guess I would have to go for Connery. Moore is a good laugh as well, but it's impossible to regard of any his Bond films as anything other than silly comedies. What do you think? :smile:

                              Edit: Oh, wrong forum. Sorry. :smile:
                              Connery. Though Moore is underrated and great as well.

                              P.S. Comical thrillers maybe, but not always silly. "The Spy who loved me" still holds up to me as the second best Bond film ever, behind "From Russia with Love" only.
                              Last edited by JimMalone; 13 February 2019, 06:40 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Originally Posted by Odrl View Post
                                So, who's the best Bond then?

                                I don't particularly like any of them, but I guess I would have to go for Connery. Moore is a good laugh as well, but it's impossible to regard of any his Bond films as anything other than silly comedies. What do you think? :smile:

                                Edit: Oh, wrong forum. Sorry. :smile:
                                Brooke...

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