2019 World Snooker Championship

[kibo]

Might be good for Cahill to just knock Ronnie out now as he clearly can’t be arsed this year.

I dont buy his "cant bother" tactics. Its more likely coping mechanism against expectations.

[Billy]

Well that was a smack on the arse for Cahill. Took the frame for granted with that loose pot attempt on frame red.

[Billy]

Been reading the two threads on this new computer game... seems they released it too early (to coincide with WSC) with all the bugs etc being described.

It's far from perfect, Dean. I just hope the developers don't run off with our money, but instead stand by their product and roll out the patch fixes promptly.

It's pretty par for the course these days. Developers now release games at 80% finished, then let the mugs who buy the game on release, to do their bug testing for them.

[vilkrang]

Might be good for Cahill to just knock Ronnie out now as he clearly can’t be arsed this year.

[JimMalone]

If James Cahill was to become World Snooker Champion for 2019, the £500,000 prize money would not be added to his order of merit because he is not a tour player, and he would start on zero prize money and points at the beginning of the 2019/2020 season. But he would be seeded N0 2 for every event he entered as World Champion, and seeded N0 1 for next years event. But would he also get a wild card into The Masters as World Champion seeing as only the top 16 players are invited. Shaun Murphy was world ranked 21 in the 2005/2006 season and was invited to The Masters as World Champion. Ian McCulloch was the world Number 16 that year and was also invited, so will the same happen again if James Cahill was to become The World Champion.

From what I see I think we really don't need to "worry" about this. Cahill won't become world champion.

[Mr Snooker]

If James Cahill was to become World Snooker Champion for 2019, the £500,000 prize money would not be added to his order of merit because he is not a tour player, and he would start on zero prize money and points at the beginning of the 2019/2020 season. But he would be seeded N0 2 for every event he entered as World Champion, and seeded N0 1 for next years event. But would he also get a wild card into The Masters as World Champion seeing as only the top 16 players are invited. Shaun Murphy was world ranked 21 in the 2005/2006 season and was invited to The Masters as World Champion. Ian McCulloch was the world Number 16 that year and was also invited, so will the same happen again if James Cahill was to become The World Champion.

[DeanH]

Been reading the two threads on this new computer game... seems they released it too early (to coincide with WSC) with all the bugs etc being described.
Luckily I have never got the bug (pardon the pun ) for computer games - unless Solitaire, TriPeaks, and Freecell count?
Usually just on the phone when out waiting for one of the children

[Billy]

For most events in the season that have a qualifying stage (i.e. as only 32 will appear at the main event - say in China) all 128 have to play for the last 32 places : EXCEPT for the World Championships.
For events without a qualifying stage then all play together - known as the Flat 128 - and I think it is often a random draw.

For the World Championships the top 16 (or 15 and champion if outside the top 16) are SEEDED into the last 32, and they play the 16 players to qualify.
In the old days the top 16 were seeded to nearly every event, now it is the other way round.

As you saw on Thursday, the matches fo the last 32 were by random pull out of the bag, one bag for the seeds (top 16) and one bag for the qualifiers.
Seed plays qualifier.

Thanks again.

I'm asking this because so many people over on Steam (it's a network for gamers) are whinging in the thread for the Snooker 19 game, because they say it's wrong that when we start a career as a player ranked sub 64, we shouldn't be meeting top 16 players in the qualifiers because top 16 players don't have to qualify.

I just wanted to check before I went shooting my mouth off and defending the game.

[DeanH]

Sorry to go on about this, but can I just have some clarification.

Do all players - including the top 16 - have to go through the qualifying rounds for tournaments? And is possible for a sub 64 players to draw the likes of RO, MS, NR in those qualifiers?

For most events in the season that have a qualifying stage (i.e. as only 32 will appear at the main event - say in China) all 128 have to play for the last 32 places : EXCEPT for the World Championships.
For events without a qualifying stage then all play together - known as the Flat 128 - and I think it is often a random draw.

For the World Championships the top 16 (or 15 and champion if outside the top 16) are SEEDED into the last 32, and they play the 16 players to qualify.
In the old days the top 16 were seeded to nearly every event, now it is the other way round.

As you saw on Thursday, the matches fo the last 32 were by random pull out of the bag, one bag for the seeds (top 16) and one bag for the qualifiers.
Seed plays qualifier.

[JimMalone]

Poor coverage by Eurosport. They show O'Sullivan - Cahill while there is already the deciding session between Higgins and Davis

[Billy]

Yes, all players have to qualify for the tournaments - unless there don't exist qualifers at all (128 men fields, Players Championship, Tour Championship for example).
Yeah, if you are outside of the top 64 you can draw Selby, O'Sullivan, Higgins, Robertson and so on in those qualifiers.

Thank you.

[JimMalone]

Sorry to go on about this, but can I just have some clarification.

Do all players - including the top 16 - have to go through the qualifying rounds for tournaments? And is possible for a sub 64 players to draw the likes of RO, MS, NR in those qualifiers?

Yes, all players have to qualify for the tournaments - unless there don't exist qualifers at all (128 men fields, Players Championship, Tour Championship for example).
Yeah, if you are outside of the top 64 you can draw Selby, O'Sullivan, Higgins, Robertson and so on in those qualifiers.

[Billy]

Years ago they used to qualify for the venue stage by default, but not anymore. Most ranking events have 128 players involved in the 1st round (sometimes that's played at the main venue, but more often the qualifiers are played weeks in advance), and if you are ranked in the bottom 64 you can draw O'Sullivan or Robertson in your opening match. That's how it works in real life at least. :smile:

Sorry to go on about this, but can I just have some clarification.

Do all players - including the top 16 - have to go through the qualifying rounds for tournaments? And is possible for a sub 64 players to draw the likes of RO, MS, NR in those qualifiers?

[Stony152]

Stephen Hendry and Dennis Taylor commenting on a coin being flipped.

HHH THH TTT HH TTTT HTHH

Heads wins the first three flips and now has the momentum and is concentrating well. Heads leads 5-1 and seems in control of the match. Suddenly tails wins three in a row through grit and determination. Not to be outdone heads wins twice in a row and the momentum has changed. Heads leads 7-4 and looks to be on the way to victory. Out of nowhere, tails wins four in a row showing all of their experience and fighting spirit. Tails leads 9-8, but heads wins the last two snatching the victory.

Do athletes, former athletes, and commentators really not understand that when two relatively equal opponents meet there will streaks of wins for no reason other than the fact that mathematically that's what happens. It doesn't have to have anything to do with concentration, character, grit, determination, or even skill. That's just the way statistics work.

[JimMalone]

Selby isn't even a shadow of his former self...