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  • Sogartar
    started a topic Official Pocket Size

    Official Pocket Size

    Hi,
    I am now searching over the net to find what is the official snooker pocket size at it's narrowest point. Couldn't so far. I have the "147 Haven and Hell" video. On Stephen Hendry's break against Jimmy White at Crucible, 1995, there was for a moment an overhead view. Although, the quality of the video is poor, it seams the pocket is a little less than two balls wide. This was also confirmed by the World Snooker Championship 2005 computer game, where the pocket is a few millimetres tighter than two balls.
    Does anyone know what is the Official standard?

  • Geoff Large
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    Originally posted by cambridge View Post
    would be great is Star made the templates available to purchase. According to them there's a set for World Snooker services and another at Star. If you purchase a Star table new they don't even use the world snooker official template which many snooker rooms have found out.
    Only way to get the same as an event is to purchase a table after a pro event which is what i did.
    Check out our cues at www.cuecreator.com
    Was you there on strip down to make sure all parts from that table went onto the van to deliver to you ?
    I have seen some so called tournament final tables slates in private homes and clubs , where not the ones used and could never have been , same can be said for some cushion sets .
    a prime example is the BCE final table that cliff thorburn made his 147 break on in 1983 .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE0n_7i_VLE

    this table was sold three time to three different clubs

    one was the first frame in Nottingham , the slates had lumps in them and where not true enough to have been used for a finals table on TV .

    I was then informed of another club in Wales and one in Portsmouth also having a wall plaque up saying the table was the one used in Thorburns televised 147 break

    all the fitters after consultation and input we found the cushions where used in the Portsmouth table and the Slates in Wales and the frame in the FIRST FRAME CLUB .

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  • cambridge
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    would be great is Star made the templates available to purchase. According to them there's a set for World Snooker services and another at Star. If you purchase a Star table new they don't even use the world snooker official template which many snooker rooms have found out.
    Only way to get the same as an event is to purchase a table after a pro event which is what i did.
    Check out our cues at www.cuecreator.com

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  • Cue_Seeker
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    Originally posted by moglet View Post
    These might help:
    Was there a diagram in this picture? I have the hardest time understanding the measurement of the pocket drop, I get the 3 and half inches and all, but would be nice if the program is back.

    I also wonder if there are pocket kits to tighten the pockets, like a strip of cushion can be attached to your pockets, making them "less undercut" to make pockets tighter.

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  • The Statman
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    Originally posted by jayhoming View Post
    can anyone take few pictures of the standard pockets on a full size table? both corner/side pockets. it will be great to have 1 or 2 balls to show the size of pocket. the reason i'm asking is that our pool hall just received a full size STAR table, but the corner pockets are so tight, it's only about 3". so, really appreciate someone's help
    Well I always understood that, purely in terms of measurement, the corner pockets should be 3½" wide, and the middle pockets, 4".

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  • nideKer
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    Originally posted by jayhoming View Post
    can anyone take few pictures of the standard pockets on a full size table? both corner/side pockets. it will be great to have 1 or 2 balls to show the size of pocket. the reason i'm asking is that our pool hall just received a full size STAR table, but the corner pockets are so tight, it's only about 3". so, really appreciate someone's help
    I think it won't help but anyway, You can use links above in my posts, maybe it might help.

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  • jayhoming
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    can anyone take few pictures of the standard pockets on a full size table? both corner/side pockets. it will be great to have 1 or 2 balls to show the size of pocket. the reason i'm asking is that our pool hall just received a full size STAR table, but the corner pockets are so tight, it's only about 3". so, really appreciate someone's help

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  • choice
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    Originally posted by Terry Davidson View Post
    Because the WPBSA didn't want anyone finding out their templates are easier than the official amateur ones of course. The drop of the slate comes out into the table another 1/4" or so and their corner pocket openings are about 1/8" larger but the really big difference is in the middle pockets, which are quite a bit easier than the IBSF amateur templates (which to my mind are way too tight).

    I wonder how many century breaks from the pros have been helped by those easier middle bags since almost every century I've ever seen includes quite a few pot to the middle bags.

    However, I have noticed these new Star tables look to be a bit tighter than the old BCE/Riley tables they used to use.

    It also helps them as they use the #10 cloth and it's always new, so the balls will slide in easier than on your normal amateur table.

    Terry
    The cushion height is different, it's lower and the undercut is different,on the new star tables.

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  • nideKer
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    Originally posted by seppo147 View Post
    We have two tables made by IBSF amateur templates.
    It`s all about "fitter hands"...

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  • seppo147
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    We have two tables made by IBSF amateur templates. Like them 2-4 weeks,after that start to be too hard to play because cloth getting bad in jaws. For aiming practise they are super but brakebuilding practise hard. One ex-pro did not wanted to play on those tables ,they are not fair.

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  • nideKer
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    As I`m promised I have uploaded a pdf with templates.

    pdf - http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...7&d=1282735166

    dwg - http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...9&d=1267456358

    Regards.

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  • nideKer
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    Originally posted by DeanH View Post
    Please can you send these as scaled drawings but as PDF please, the DWG veiwers I have will not open the file and I cannot install NanoCAD.
    Many thanks
    DeanH
    Tomorrow I`ll attach a pdf.
    My friend and I have a public web-site
    http://sites.google.com/site/poolbuilding/snuker_ip
    We are post there all information which could find in internet. You always can use this information! (You can use on-line translater for reading description)

    (But, I didn`t change the template drawing there yet...)

    Regards!

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  • jorock63
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    Well I live in New York,,but on vacation in Malaysia ( im a Malaysian )..thanks for the info

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  • noel
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    Originally posted by Terry Davidson View Post
    Because the WPBSA didn't want anyone finding out their templates are easier than the official amateur ones of course.Terry
    Thanks Terry.
    Silly me... I would have thought that
    A LEVEL PLAYING TABLE
    would be in everyone's best interest!


    =o(

    Noel

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  • Terry Davidson
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    Because the WPBSA didn't want anyone finding out their templates are easier than the official amateur ones of course. The drop of the slate comes out into the table another 1/4" or so and their corner pocket openings are about 1/8" larger but the really big difference is in the middle pockets, which are quite a bit easier than the IBSF amateur templates (which to my mind are way too tight).

    I wonder how many century breaks from the pros have been helped by those easier middle bags since almost every century I've ever seen includes quite a few pot to the middle bags.

    However, I have noticed these new Star tables look to be a bit tighter than the old BCE/Riley tables they used to use.

    It also helps them as they use the #10 cloth and it's always new, so the balls will slide in easier than on your normal amateur table.

    Terry

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