World Championship Qualifiers

[Rane]

Xiao is basically through, holding a 8-1-lead over Mark King.
All other matches that began in the morning are quite open with every single one being either 6-3 or 5-4.

It looks like Xiao is finally showing some of the form that carried him to the brink of top 16 a few years ago.

[JimMalone]

Mark Williams trails Stuart Carrington 3-6 after the first session. He already fought hard in the first two rounds. Seems like he didn't his from von Beijing over here.

[Stony152]

Yu, Xiao, and Ding are their surname actually.

That's what I said. What's your point?

[shmeeko69]

When you look at the break-building quality of Gary Wilson in these qualifiers (8 - 100+ breaks), it must be
annoying for him that he hasn't made any real progress in the snooker world to date.

[jimev]

When you look at the break-building quality of Gary Wilson in these qualifiers (8 - 100+ breaks), it must be
annoying for him that he hasn't made any real progress in the snooker world to date.

He's hit a great patch of form at just the right time. Think he can make a real impact next week if he can keep his nerves in check.

[Stony152]

Can somebody explain the end of that frame with Brecel and Dale. Brecel pocketed the last pink and then angled himself on the last black in a corner pocket. He tried a swerve shot but missed the black. At that point he conceded the frame. Walker asked Foulds why Brecel didn't make Dale pocket the black. (he was within 7 points even after the 7 point penalty) Foulds said that if you foul on the last black you automatically lose the frame. I'm confused. If you are 30 points ahead and you foul on the last black do you lose the frame?

[Dark]

Yesterday Vafaei put the final black off the table when he tried smash it in but he still won the frame.

[Stony152]

Yesterday Vafaei put the final black off the table when he tried smash it in but he still won the frame.

I know. What Foulds said makes no sense to me.

[Stony152]

Players way ahead routinely play trick shots on the final black to entertain the crowd. What if they miscue and miss the black completely? According to what Foulds said they would lose the frame. That's definitely not true.

I think Brecel was just frustrated by what happened and that's why he conceded the frame. Where the white ball ended up, the black left for Dale was not difficult, but he missed an easier brown five minutes earlier.

[Mr Snooker]

Can somebody explain the end of that frame with Brecel and Dale. Brecel pocketed the last pink and then angled himself on the last black in a corner pocket. He tried a swerve shot but missed the black. At that point he conceded the frame. Walker asked Foulds why Brecel didn't make Dale pocket the black. (he was within 7 points even after the 7 point penalty) Foulds said that if you foul on the last black you automatically lose the frame. I'm confused. If you are 30 points ahead and you foul on the last black do you lose the frame?

If only the black is left on the table and it is a black ball game, then one foul is allowed on the black, the only time it is not loss of frame after a foul on the black ball is if the scores become level after the foul, so say after Luca fouled and the scores are 72 points each then the black ball is re spotted and the first foul or pot on the black wins that frame, this happened in a deciding frame in the world championships between Nigel Bond And Stephen Hendry, Bond went in off on the final black and made the scores level the black was re-spotted and Nigel Bond potted the re-spotted black to win the match 10-9 I think this was in 2006, this is the only time this as happened in the main stages of the world championships.

[jonny66]

Can somebody explain the end of that frame with Brecel and Dale. Brecel pocketed the last pink and then angled himself on the last black in a corner pocket. He tried a swerve shot but missed the black. At that point he conceded the frame. Walker asked Foulds why Brecel didn't make Dale pocket the black. (he was within 7 points even after the 7 point penalty) Foulds said that if you foul on the last black you automatically lose the frame. I'm confused. If you are 30 points ahead and you foul on the last black do you lose the frame?

If it's a black ball to decide the frame, the first foul loses it. If you were 30 points in front you can just take the frame as soon as the pink goes down.

[Stony152]

If only the black is left on the table and it is a black ball game, then one foul is allowed on the black, the only time it is not loss of frame after a foul on the black ball is if the scores become level after the foul, so say after Luca fouled and the scores are 72 points each then the black ball is re spotted and the first foul or pot on the black wins that frame, this happened in a deciding frame in the world championships between Nigel Bond And Stephen Hendry, Bond went in off on the final black and made the scores level the black was re-spotted and Nigel Bond potted the re-spotted black to win the match 10-9 I think this was in 2006, this is the only time this as happened in the main stages of the world championships.

OK. Thanks. That seems like a strange rule. Logically, it would seem like the other player should have to pot the last black if he's less than 7 points ahead after the foul.

Brecel should have played the white up and down the table. He really had no shot trying to swerve the ball.

[motorhead]

OK. Thanks. That seems like a strange rule. Logically, it would seem like the other player should have to pot the last black if he's less than 7 points ahead after the foul.

Brecel should have played the white up and down the table. He really had no shot trying to swerve the ball.

http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...749-Black-ball

[Stony152]

http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...749-Black-ball

Thanks. I guess it doesn't happen that often. Rob Walker wasn't even aware of the rule.

[DeanH]

Can somebody explain the end of that frame with Brecel and Dale. Brecel pocketed the last pink and then angled himself on the last black in a corner pocket. He tried a swerve shot but missed the black. At that point he conceded the frame. Walker asked Foulds why Brecel didn't make Dale pocket the black. (he was within 7 points even after the 7 point penalty) Foulds said that if you foul on the last black you automatically lose the frame. I'm confused. If you are 30 points ahead and you foul on the last black do you lose the frame?

which frame was it? Also any link to a vid?

The rules states that the first score (pot) or foul on the last black (when only black on the table) ends the frame.
The winner of the frame is the player with the highest score after said score or penalty points are applied.
If scores are equal at this time, then a tie-break occurs (respot Black).