Opinion on Ronnie declining the 147?

[Leo]

And scameron isnt? id rather corbyn over any of these corporate scavenges, they have gone a long way to killing this country lets hope its salvagable when, not if, corbyn gets in.

I don't like Cameron either.

[luke-h]

Oh lord Vmax a Corbyn fan. Corbyn is a security threat to this country and wouldnt want that idiot no where near Downing Street. Let's face it though that's never going to happen is it.

And scameron isnt? id rather corbyn over any of these corporate scavenges, they have gone a long way to killing this country lets hope its salvagable when, not if, corbyn gets in.

[Leo]

That's always the case individually biggie, but in UK society as a whole it started with Thatcher cosying up to Reagan, hopefully Corbyn can take us back to a more caring society, the signs are there and my fingers are crossed.



When we've been at the coalface all day, the last thing we need is to watch people 'working' for our entertainment, be that reality tv or sports people simply doing only what's neccessary to win.
That was the big difference between Alex Higgins and Steve Davis, and the fans of only one of them knew the difference.

Oh lord Vmax a Corbyn fan. Corbyn is a security threat to this country and wouldnt want that idiot no where near Downing Street. Let's face it though that's never going to happen is it.

[vmax4steve]

Lol. American values? What ARE you on about? I see money orientated greedy *******s everywhere, and always have.

That's always the case individually biggie, but in UK society as a whole it started with Thatcher cosying up to Reagan, hopefully Corbyn can take us back to a more caring society, the signs are there and my fingers are crossed.

Some here hope will be Selby....that will be a sad day. But to hammer Ronnie many people are praising Selby for some abilities that most of the players posses. In fact he plays the game in an honest way. No fireworks...the right shot all the time. I personally dont want to see that all the time. Even from time to time is a little too much imo.
Lets hope this lad keeps playing for another few years. So we can expect the unexpected in the game.

When we've been at the coalface all day, the last thing we need is to watch people 'working' for our entertainment, be that reality tv or sports people simply doing only what's neccessary to win.
That was the big difference between Alex Higgins and Steve Davis, and the fans of only one of them knew the difference.

[attilahun]

Keeper of the flame is Ronnie, as was Jimmy, but who's next ?

Some here hope will be Selby....that will be a sad day. But to hammer Ronnie many people are praising Selby for some abilities that most of the players posses. In fact he plays the game in an honest way. No fireworks...the right shot all the time. I personally dont want to see that all the time. Even from time to time is a little too much imo.
Lets hope this lad keeps playing for another few years. So we can expect the unexpected in the game.

[mikeyd100]

https://youtu.be/yNwoeFfh7MY

Lmaooo, nice ........ "Where's his harline going" hahahaa

[Catch 22]

Not sure about the American values as such vmax .....I used to frequent on the ice hockey forums . The way they destroy players on those forums is nuts lol

Probably as bad as us with football players

[itsnoteasy]

https://youtu.be/yNwoeFfh7MY

That's not bad Ted.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Sounds an awful lot like mean spirited scottish jingoism to me.



Best post ever on TSF, I'm afraid that american values have finally taken a lot us over.

Lol. American values? What ARE you on about? I see money orientated greedy *******s everywhere, and always have.

Agree about Scottish bitterness, however. What a grateful bunch!

[alabadi]

for me Ronnie O'Sullivan as a snooker player is fantastic, a genius when his mind is on the job and i love watching him play, as a person although i think he is tons better than he use to be i still find his antics distasteful.

i have been to many tournaments and can say i have been fortunate to watch almost everyone live bar Ronnie. not sure why just luck of the draw i guess, however had i been watching the game where he made a 146 it wouldn't have bothered me in the slightest that it wasn't a 147.
to me watching a player make a total clearance is as enjoyable doesn't matter the fact that they are all blacks, its just a different coloured ball, the skill to maneuver the cue ball around the table and clear the lot is as good as anything to me.

yes a 147 is the ultimate for the player, as its the highest break they can achieve. (yes i know a 155 is possible) however as a spectator a 147, 146 or 130 clearance tom me is all the same

[tedisbill]

https://youtu.be/yNwoeFfh7MY

[billabong]

No wonder Ronnie is pissed off when he sees something like this ( ref messi penalty ). What's the difference?

No difference for me. Both celebrating the joy and unpredictability of sport, and both within the rules.

It's been said that Mark Williams hasn't as many century breaks as he could have, because he switches off after doing enough to win the frame.

Should we go back and analyse all his one frame visit frames without a century and start criticising him for all the fans betting he would hit a ton ?

Nah ! Life's too short . I feel privileged to have been on this earth while some G.O.A.T. top men and women of quite a few sports have been doing their stuff.


Don't try and mold them into something they're not. ( perfect , and able to please all the people all the time ).

[vmax4steve]

He is a disgrace. If I'd had been in crowd I would have shouted some abuse at him and walked out, he's just a horrible little piece of gutter trash, a truly classless piece of work. Snookers in the pits that he can do what he wants, play when he wants and the games beholding to him, the time will come though when he's not around and he will be remembered for the disgrace he was to the game, talented yes but a disgrace to the game. Hendry buried him in 99 and 02 when past his best. You Ronnie loving clowns should remember that.

Sounds an awful lot like mean spirited scottish jingoism to me.

Issues like this reflect far greater on us than it does on the artist. It certainly shows what political parties everyone votes for. I remember Tony Wilson used to tell Shaun Ryder he was a true poet and Ryder would dismiss this, as he had no education in poetry. In much the same way, I don't think Ronnie understands he is an artist and quite articulates the artistic statements he makes, simply because as a snooker player, he does not fit the profile. However, what he did yesterday was very akin to the artistic merits of KLF burning a million pound on an island and the 'Leeds 13' holiday-grant fiasco... he was holding a mirror at us. We in the west have a very unhealthy obsession with money, in the way an anorexic has for food. As far as I am aware, nobody in the history of professional snooker has made a 147 and donated the money to charity. If John Higgins made a 147 yesterday, where do you think it would have gone? Straight in to his bank account. And the same for Ronnie. So this idea that the money could have gone to charity is an entirely extraneous point of view. Incidentally, that 10k is still in existence, just in the sponsor's pocket, rather than a player's, can't they donate it?

So here, we have an all too rare sports personality, putting principle before money, but we don't applaud that. We live in a magazine culture where figureheads climb and fall an imaginary ranking ladder of popularity and we cue up to judge them and comment, and the rise and falls can be dramatic. Ronaldo earns preposterous amounts controlled in turn by his ego, and we hate him for it. He donates a weeks wage to a sick child and suddenly he's a superhero. This modest act creates with it an influx of parroting social media commentators to come forth with great adulation, usually reserved for dying soldiers. But when we certify them improper, we get sanctimonious phrases like - "He's gone down in my estimation".

When money is either destroyed or squandered, we feel distraught, We do so because it is like they are burning our dreams and desires "Imagine what I could do with that". Yet, what somebody chooses to do with their money, really has nothing to do with us. Our self importance over somebody else's business is sickening. Ronnie has given us an abundance of joy over the years, with his genius comes madness, as it always does. So the argument that fans paid money and should have been duly rewarded with the 147 is moot. As a music fan, this reminds me of some of the enigmas I have watched live over time. They can arrive late, or not turn up at all. The next week, they reveal their unbridled genius and you excuse them, this is what you invested your interest in. On the contrary, if you spend good money on Metallica, you will always get value for money, because they provide pyrotechnics. So you are responsible for which artist you would prefer to see. If you pay to watch Shaun Murphy, then expect ultimate professionalism and robotic personality, you won't be disappointed. If you pay to watch an unpredictable enigma, then expect unpredictable enigmatic things.

By the way, what a masterstroke by Hearn to change his viewpoint today. Initially, it was no surprise to hear his condemnation. I doubt a man motivated by money would understand the artistic merit of another man forfeiting cash to make a point, that is not a language he understands. However, I think he realised last night that he was losing the battle. He has tried to turn the tables today with backhanded compliments and instead put the focus on the headlines Ronnie has made for snooker, which is a canny move.

Ultimately, we forgive geniuses when the dust settles and we understand it was all in the name of entertainment. Alex Higgins has been forgiven of nearly everything he ever did. Geniuses are rightly excused in the end. It also shows us how spurious our personal offence to said incidents are.

Best post ever on TSF, I'm afraid that american values have finally taken a lot us over.

Hahaha, and snooker carried on even after him. So it will certainly after Ronnie quits too.

Keeper of the flame is Ronnie, as was Jimmy, but who's next ?

[SnookerFan]

10k was'nt the reason why he did'nt made the max , regardless of what he said in that interview .

It was still a douchey thing to say. If he was lying about his reasons, it doesn't stopmit being a douchey thing to say.

[golferson123]

Perfect game/leg of darts. Scoring 501 points using 9 darts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dart_finish

The clue is in the lol